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Posted: 19.07.2015  ·  #1
Was told as classed as commercial they are only 50 euro,but anybody know about this?


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Posted: 19.07.2015  ·  #3
As far as I know it's based on weight,and wether is twin wheel or single. 5000 kg comes into my head as regards the 50e .
Give it a while .............someone will give you an answer. :D
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Posted: 19.07.2015  ·  #4
From reading loads of posts on here previously, no matter how you look at it, you are going to get ripped off.


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Yeah rip off republic strikes again thanks guys.


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Was told as classed as commercial they are only 50 euro,but anybody know about this?


AFAIK €50 was for Motorhomes over Three Ton weight Presented Under the old VRT payment system.


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Was told as classed as commercial they are only 50 euro,but anybody know about this?


AFAIK the 50€ 3 ton thing is no more.


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Posted: 23.07.2015  ·  #9
i asked the same question in our nct centre before i bought mine.i asked if i brought one in from uk what would it cost,answer was buy it and bring it to us and we will contact rosslare and give a price.so then i asked if i bought a minibus and converted it myself seeing as duty would have been paid on a bus what would it cost and guess what......the same answer,buy it and bring it to us and we will price it.


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i asked the same question in our nct centre before i bought mine.i asked if i brought one in from uk what would it cost,answer was buy it and bring it to us and we will contact rosslare and give a price.so then i asked if i bought a minibus and converted it myself seeing as duty would have been paid on a bus what would it cost and guess what......the same answer,buy it and bring it to us and we will price it.


That is the way it is since the new vrt pricing came in, Mike.
My Dad converted a Transit Hi Cube some years ago with the old system and he contacted Rosslare before he started converting and they gave him a quotation by Fax, when he presented it for Inspection they were looking for much more but honoured the amount on the Fax when challenged.
I doubt you will get a quote now. By the way did you Import and if so how did you get on?


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hi no i didnt import but bought one from a guy in cork,its a 92 talbot autotrail scout4 as i wasnt interested in converting one to find out i was going to be robbed at centre


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Hi Guys,

We brought out Burstner in from the UK, registered it last year we paid nearly €4000 VRT...Joke
Register with the NCT, they then send all paperwork to the revenue and apparently they have a specialised panel of experts that value said vans, (how this is allowed to be done without a visual inspection is rediculious ) You can only appeal the figure after you've paid.
I spoke to so many people in Revenue and all gave me mixed information regarding VRT for Motorhomes... I feel if someone had the money to fight this , the courts would admit that VRT is illegal!!!


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Did importing work out cheaper or dearer than buying the same motorhome here in Ireland, Emma?

I wonder do they get valuations from Motorhome dealers who wouldn't like to see motorhomes been imported, competing with sales of their own vans. If that was the case you can be sure they will value them on the high side.


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Not so, they usually based the valuation on UK prices!


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Not so, they usually based the valuation on UK prices!


I don't know Tristan, I wasn't having a go at you, I know you and other Dealers also import but what vrt you pay has nothing to do with what you paid for your Motorhome in the UK. Maybe there is some formula based on new prices, but then how do they come up with vrt for home made van conversions?


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Posted: 01.08.2015  ·  #16
Genuinely, they look up similar looking ones online, on the likes of Auto Trader. It's daft.


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Daft for sure, Tristan :up:


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Posted: 01.08.2015  ·  #18
And its not even consistent. We registered 2 New factory builds, vans. Same model, drivetrain, spec, hell even the same colour, literally identical. Only about a month apart. Over a thousand Euro difference in the vrt. And they couldn't give us a reason!!


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Posted: 02.08.2015  ·  #19
Hello
We brought our van over in 2009. We paid €50 and were so pleased this amount has now gone ! BUT Because the van is over 3.5 tonne we needed a C license, the one that allows you to drive from 3.7 tonne to 7.5. Lucky we both had this. Also the van has to go to get its NCT equivalent every year now which is €92 per year. This also means that when reselling only someone with the right category licence can drive. In ROI you are restricted in driving speed to 80 Kph. Different speeds in France and the UK Must recheck.

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Did importing work out cheaper or dearer than buying the same motorhome here in Ireland, Emma?

I wonder do they get valuations from Motorhome dealers who wouldn't like to see motorhomes been imported, competing with sales of their own vans. If that was the case you can be sure they will value them on the high side.


In the end I think it is cheaper, also there was a lot more extras on the van than I would have got here. I did speak to a few dealers here in Ireland, one told me that he bought in to identical vans, and received two different prices of VRT. You can appeal but only after you've paid...


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Revenue calculate an Open Market Selling Price on which they then charge you 13.3%.

If you are not happy with their valuation you can challenge it. They set out the process fairly clearly in their online information.

I bought a vehicle in NI and when challenging the OMSP as calculated by Revenue I submitted;

1. My receipt - which was less than what Revenue calculated and
2. 3 other valuations for the same vehicle which I found on the web, one French, one Finnish and some other one - possibly French also.


The average valuation I submitted was significantly lower but it was accepted and I got the appropriate rebate.

It can be quite tricky doing the calculations because different countries (EU) have different VAT rates etc and these must be stripped out of the price and then the Irish VAT rate applied.

As I said, all the relevant info is on the Revenue web site.

When I brought the MH for its NCT it was photographed inside and out and these photos were sent to Revenue as part of their valuation.


By the way, Ireland is not the only EU country charging VRT on imports. I found that quite a few others do it as well, and some charge even more.


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I wouldn't hold my breath on that one Paul !

How could they pay back the VRT on every new and secondhand vehicle since 2009? The vrt was paid by the importer and if he get it back then it should go to everyone that owned the vehicle in its lifetime because it was factored into the price every time it was sold.


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Posted: 13.08.2015  ·  #24
Apart from the VRT on cars and it's legality because it is calculated on a value which also includes VRT, a tax on a tax, there is a separate issue unique to motor caravans which has to be contrary to all sorts of laws and rights.

When buying a vehicle which is subject to Vehicle Registration Tax there exists for motor caravans the unique situation where you do not know the tax liability until after the transaction is concluded and you are the owner of the vehicle.

I believe that a citizen/resident of a state is entitled to and has the right to know the tax liability arising from any transaction in advance of entering into such a transaction in order that they will be aware of the final cost outcome of that transaction.
To expect those who wish to own and use a motor caravan to enter blindly into a purchase without a reliable indication of the final tax liability arising from the transaction must be contrary to all tax ethics and law.


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