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Posted: 31.05.2015  ·  #1
Hello all, im in need of some advise and direction. So I purchased my first camper after christmas, its a 93 fiat ducato, basic enough. Myself and my girlfriend are travelling back from canada where iv lived for passed few years, in mid to late july,. We plan on taking off from leitrim and spending a week or 2 travelling around the south of ireland maybe kerry, cork and then head off from rosslare to cherbourg in early august!! Would I need to book ferry much in advance? I seen one way on oscar wilde for 294 euro on the 2nd of august. Good deal ?

anyways once we are there we have about 3 months to spend taking in all some of mainland europe. Main places we want to see are france, belgium, holland, germany, poland, Switzerland, italy, Croatia. Would this be enough time to take all this in? Was aiming to take in the more northern counteries in august and half of sept, and then hit south of france and italy for end of sept and october. For weather reasons!

Just started planning a little today, when we land in france, we are going to head in the direction of paris in the first few days, maybe stopover in normandy region along the way, any suggestions? From paris i think we will head in the direction of belgium and holland.

we are in our late 20's early 30's, interested in outdoors, nature, woodworking, antiques, hiking, biking,
beer, wine and good quality food.


We have never been to mainland europe before and would greatly appreciate any info on places to see, campgrounds to stay at, etc. Is there an essential book I should have to show me campsite locations all over europe? also not sure if ill know what exact dates ill be at certain campsites, do i need to book long in advance?

Im sorry for the long, disheveled message, just really looking forward to our first trip away and want to make the most of it by preparing as much as we can!

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welcome to the forum, we/I can't offer much help on Europe as we're just heading there ourselves for the first time, this Friday in fact. Our van is a fresh conversion, so we'll sort of be testing a lot of the systems on her as well. We are still fighting the urge to cram too much in/ move too quickly. really need to learn the campervan chain of thought!!!!

Our plan is to head up from Roscoff to Mont St Michel for a night, then onto lake Como, probably stopping at the 24 hour circuit/museum in Le Mans, and possibly Dijon/Baume to break the journey up. We also plan on doing the Lauterbrunnen (valley of the waterfalls) and Gotthard passes going the two directions.

We only have 16 days , whereas you really don't need to be in a hurry anywhere!! Wish I could swap places, lol.

We, too, are travelling via the Oscar Wilde, but having booked several months ago, we got both ways for £340 with a cabin both directions (think the return is flexible, plus we got the free UK trip as part of that package). Will return feedback later on.


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Last year we had a 1 night stop in Le Mans but in the centre itself along side the river. It was a free stopover but small and I suspect it could get very busy. As for all of the other places you intend to go, in Germany in particular I would recommend following the Rhine or Mosel as they have some excellent free/very cheap camper stops along the edges of the river. We used a book called camper stops Europe and was good for us. But can be out if date very quickly.
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Don't make too many plans just go with the flow as you might find something you would like to spend more time at but your plans don't allow for it.


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Also recommend Camperstop as the best book for Aires and Stelpatz etc also look at joining the acsi camping card site as it give you out of season discounts ,most of the books can be bought here
http://www.vicariousbooks.co.uk/
and have never made any plans as to where i will stop and so long as you start looking late afternoon you will be ok.
heres a couple of links to pages on my website that might be a help.
http://www.rebbyvid.co.uk/#/useful-links/4539633232
http://www.rebbyvid.co.uk/#/going-to-france/4542257529
also have blogs on France /Germany/Belgium/Holland.
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Thanks so much for the replys, I just ordered the camperstop europe book 2015. Hope to get some tips from it, anyone stay in a nice campsite near paris?


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welcome to the forum, we/I can't offer much help on Europe as we're just heading there ourselves for the first time, this Friday in fact. Our van is a fresh conversion, so we'll sort of be testing a lot of the systems on her as well. We are still fighting the urge to cram too much in/ move too quickly. really need to learn the campervan chain of thought!!!!

Our plan is to head up from Roscoff to Mont St Michel for a night, then onto lake Como, probably stopping at the 24 hour circuit/museum in Le Mans, and possibly Dijon/Baume to break the journey up. We also plan on doing the Lauterbrunnen (valley of the waterfalls) and Gotthard passes going the two directions.

We only have 16 days , whereas you really don't need to be in a hurry anywhere!! Wish I could swap places, lol.

We, too, are travelling via the Oscar Wilde, but having booked several months ago, we got both ways for £340 with a cabin both directions (think the return is flexible, plus we got the free UK trip as part of that package). Will return feedback later on.


16 DAYS? to do Roscoff - Paris - Dijon - Northern Italy - Switzerland and then back to Roscoff

I would respectfully suggest you need to fight the urge to cram it in a bit harder.

That really is a lot to do in what is basically 2 weeks, unless you really do like driving on motorways and paying tolls. Anything over 200miles/day really isn't much of a holiday to me - France is a very big country.

If you really must do all that, my advice is head straight for the furthest point as fast as possible and work your way backwards towards Cherbourg.

That way when the time starts to run out (and it will) you can just head straight back to the ferry.


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I would have to agree.
That is a lot of driving and a lot of tolls to cover the distance.
You might find yourself spending more time driving than you think.


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Whizzing through Europe probably doesn't appeal to most of us old codgers on here but since you are in your 30's (envious) I'd say go for it and enjoy. There are plenty of internet 'camp finding ' sites that will allow you to search for an aire/campsite within 'x' kms of your location, google up a few eg camping car infos, or searchforsites uk. Make sure you comply with the legal requirements in each country. Carry a spare wheel and have good breakdown cover. Other than that I hope you have a great trip.


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Whizzing through Europe probably doesn't appeal to most of us old codgers on here but since you are in your 30's (envious) I'd say go for it and enjoy.


Surely whatever you age you want to see something more than autoroute toll booths and service areas?


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If you just want somewhere to park overnight with a good Metro link into the centre we have used the car park at Malakoff - Plateau de Vanves Metro station. It's just off the Peripherique near the Paris Expo Halls.
It has a rail line behind it, but it not too much disturbance.


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welcome to the forum, we/I can't offer much help on Europe as we're just heading there ourselves for the first time, this Friday in fact. Our van is a fresh conversion, so we'll sort of be testing a lot of the systems on her as well. We are still fighting the urge to cram too much in/ move too quickly. really need to learn the campervan chain of thought!!!!

Our plan is to head up from Roscoff to Mont St Michel for a night, then onto lake Como, probably stopping at the 24 hour circuit/museum in Le Mans, and possibly Dijon/Baume to break the journey up. We also plan on doing the Lauterbrunnen (valley of the waterfalls) and Gotthard passes going the two directions.

We only have 16 days , whereas you really don't need to be in a hurry anywhere!! Wish I could swap places, lol.

We, too, are travelling via the Oscar Wilde, but having booked several months ago, we got both ways for £340 with a cabin both directions (think the return is flexible, plus we got the free UK trip as part of that package). Will return feedback later on.


16 DAYS? to do Roscoff - Paris - Dijon - Northern Italy - Switzerland and then back to Roscoff

I would respectfully suggest you need to fight the urge to cram it in a bit harder.

That really is a lot to do in what is basically 2 weeks, unless you really do like driving on motorways and paying tolls. Anything over 200miles/day really isn't much of a holiday to me - France is a very big country.

If you really must do all that, my advice is head straight for the furthest point as fast as possible and work your way backwards towards Cherbourg.

That way when the time starts to run out (and it will) you can just head straight back to the ferry.


Totally agree. I think for your first time it is maybe a bit ambitious also you want to take in the surroundings your travelling through to enjoy your holiday.


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nice one daithi. ferry price is reasonable. icampingcar is a free app which will take to to free or cheap motorhome stops in france and beyond. Motorway driving in europe is a breeze but you will find tolls, Belgium germany italy austria dont use tolls and it is possible to get through france without them too. As a guide you would pay about 100E to get from top to bottom france using all toll roads. ADAC is worth considering for combined travel/breakdown insurance but I think you will be limited to 92 day cover, its very cheap at 90euro for membership and although a german company with 15million members ROI residents can join. Get a good shake down trip of van first in ireland before going to continent. Ive had a 1988 and 1993 ducato 2.5TD engine and they have done me well, im on a ducato 2.5TDI now and have great confidence. Also seriously consider getting 2 solar panels and 2 x 110amp hr bateries to give you the great flexibility of staying off grid, oh and check you have a good fridge that runs on gas for same reason. Plenty of help on here but a lot of second hand info too, so do your research. Ive been drining cars, caravans, campervans and motorhomes in europe for 20 years and we do 6 week trips every year (teachers u see!). PM me if I can be of any help. Fill ur van up with LIDL goodies and buy your diesel off of the motorway, and BTW Luxembourg is dirt cheap for diesel if you passing that way. The Aire/stellplatz,aree di sosta network across europe is awesome so it will stretch ur budget massively. happy plannin!


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Thank you hymer544, I do believe my fridge runs on the leisure battery when not running, I plan on taking it around ireland for a week or so before heading to the continent to get a feel for it, the camper is a 1.9 diesel so hopefully has enough power for the trip, a little worried about that! I would be interested in getting couple solar panels, dont know anything about them, are the hard to set up? Any links to good ones would be great! Would def be interested in picking your brain on couple topics im a little nervous about,, Im not fully registered on here, so cant use the pm yet!


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I do believe my fridge runs on the leisure battery when not running,


If it is a "3-Way" fridge i.e. it runs on 12volt 220-240volt and gas you do not want it to run off the leisure battery when the engine isn't running. Such fridges can drain a leisure battery VERY quickly and that can quickly kill the battery.

The only fridges that can and should be run off a leisure battery when the engine isn't running are compressor fridges such as the Waeco - they are usually 12 volt only anyway and they do not run off gas at all.


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If it is a "3-Way" fridge i.e. it runs on 12volt 220-240volt and gas you do not want it to run off the leisure battery when the engine isn't running. Such fridges can drain a leisure battery VERY quickly and that can quickly kill the battery.

The only fridges that can and should be run off a leisure battery when the engine isn't running are compressor fridges such as the Waeco - they are usually 12 volt only anyway and they do not run off gas at all.
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I shall check this out. It may run off the gas! Im still in canada you see so looking forward to figuring out how it all works when I get home. I do like the idea of a solar panel, can this be hooked straight up to the leisure battery to charge it when engine is off..anybody know of somone willing to fit one in the north west area? Thanks again for the comments


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Hi Daithi, the 1.9 will get you around at ample speed considering the time you have as long as you dont overload the van. Solar panels from ebay made in China are great value. They are easilly fitted by anyone with basic tools and DIY knowledge. Of course there are plenty of people who will try and relieve you of a lot of money to install the system, but it is really simple. plenty people on here have fitted their own, me included (on 2 vans). Ive used my own installs on 6 x 5week trips and never had a flat battery since. Compete system (exc batteries) on ebay for £175 STG, throw in 2 new batteries even and your still away at under £400. For a 4 month extended trip its money well spent.

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Thanks hymer544, I just bought a brand new leisure battery, can the panel be hooked up to this to keep it charged, or are special type of battery required?


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Thanks hymer544, I just bought a brand new leisure battery, can the panel be hooked up to this to keep it charged, or are special type of battery required?


Same batteries and agree with Hymer544, they are very easy fitted DIY.


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daithi, normal 12v lead acid batteries are best. Plenty will tell u otherwise and try and relieve u of a lot of euro for fancy gel batteries...total snake oil. Lead/acid batteries kept inside a van with a trickle charge attached will be perfect. Solar panel, charge controller and a bit of wiring and ur sorted. 1 panel and 1 battery would prob be enough, especially if u fitted LED bulbs to habitation lights and are not usinga microwaves or sat dish/tv etc a lot.


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Just a quick update on progress, booked the ferry, rosslare to cherbourg €454 for camper and 2 bed 4 star cabin.thats one way august 2nd! Thought It was a little expensive but booked it anyways! Havent pulled the trigger on a solar panel yet, was weighing up wheather I could get away without it! What ye think? Will the engine not keep the new leisure battery charged enough between stops? Also bought the camperstop 2015 book so looking foward to going through that! As far as adac, I went to their website, really confused by what the membership get you, any help would be great


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Pity you booked a weekend sailing as they are more expensive. We are sailing out a week later for 3 weeks. Return crossing with cabins cost €505.

We use the all the Aires book mostly and find it great.

If you have decent batteries and move every couple of days driving for 3 hours or more you should be fine. We do have solar and even this weekend our batteries were showing 13.7 volt by 10am each day.


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daith, you could change your booking to midweek as mark says and put the money on solar. Your alternator will def not be enough to fully charge your bat especially if u r sitting for a few days, the alternator on that 1.9 ducato engine may well be original part and as such may not be pitting out a lot of spare amps. IN August anywhere in europe stay away form any holiday hotspot roads on a friday as the roads will be very busy. Any other days the road network will be free flowing byt august weekends are always busy.


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Thanks for the advice, I tried to change it but looks like there are no mid week bookings left in early august, anyways looking at buying that solar panel you sent me the link for hymer544,, and installing it my self, hope it goes ok!
Im getting some personal travel insurance sorted for myself and my girlfirend.however whats the best breakdown assistance coverage out there? Is that what the adac membership is?


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Adac covers breakdown and medical but max is 92 days and includes repatriation of u and van in worst case scenario.n its def worth a look. Me and a good few others on here have it. Ive never needed to use it but its the best value by far.


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I did have to use ADAC and can't fault them


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Adac covers breakdown and medical but max is 92 days and includes repatriation of u and van in worst case scenario.n its def worth a look. Me and a good few others on here have it. Ive never needed to use it but its the best value by far.


Hi, we are heading to France in July and I am considering insurance should anything drastic go wrong. I've had a look at ADAC and not being German am finding it difficult to understand. Is it more suited to German speakers. All terms and conditions etc are in German. Plus in the event that we did break down, will the other person on the other end of the Telephone only speak Geman? If so, has anybody got any other breakdown/repatriation alternatives?? Or I might just wing it!
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i wouldn't wing it,

NEW TELEPHONE NUMBER For joining. 22nd January 2015. They understand and speak perfect English.

Telephone Number is Cologne 00 49 221 47 27 47 8.30 am to 5.30pm but don't forget the hour difference to the UK

you will be sent a membership card in the post after joining with the relevant numbers on the reverse

in france on all autoroutes, you call one number,025 1092032 regardless of who you have cover with, Adac will then intervene when recovery firm contact them on production of your card,

on all other roads, then your ADAC contact is the one to use


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Thanks Jag147.

So we rang ADAC on the above number and got transferred to an English speaking agent.

Subscription for myself and my wife was 109 euro.

Cover is for 1 year.

Cover is for all of Europe including Ireland. Include breakdown assistance / repatriation / replacement car.

Cover not limited to camper van but any vehicle you are driving.

Hopeful we won't need it but great to have the peace of mind.


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Thanks Jag147.

So we rang ADAC on the above number and got transferred to an English speaking agent.

Subscription for myself and my wife was 109 euro.

Cover is for 1 year.

Cover is for all of Europe including Ireland. Include breakdown assistance / repatriation / replacement car.

Cover not limited to camper van but any vehicle you are driving.

Hopeful we won't need it but great to have the peace of mind.


Last year some Craickers claimed ADAC were offering Irish customers lesser cover than the previous year. ADAC never informed me about any change in cover. Anybody got any update on this??


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Thanks for the great posts and info, I ordered the solar panel with dual charge controler, I presume this means you can hook it up to 2 batteries!?,strongly considering getting the adac 1 year membership. Getting rv insured with stuart insurances. They accept my canadian licence (I exchaged my full irish licence for it) where dolmen didnt. Anybody have any thoughts on getting an international drivers licence for travelling on continent?


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We are heading off in July for a month in a 1991 Hymer Camp. Booked Roslare to Cherbourg in February return plus two cabins for £652 and thought we were getting a reasonable deal. Have only made one fixed stop for a week in the Ardeche but am planning on D Day sites, St Malo, LaRochelle, Ile de Re and Bordeux area all of it with the exception of the Ardeche using Aires de Camp. Looking forward to it but it is a bit of an unknown quantity.


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Hi stacks. I need to renew my ADAC. How long did it take to send ADAC card, we r off on 14july?
PS there is an English translation or terms online somewhere, I found it before.


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Posted: 28.06.2015  ·  #35
Hi geordiharry. For ile de re, u could consider the aire at le bois place. At beach, hot open shower, fresh bread and lovely village 5 mins away, all for €12. Even in Aug we got a spot, there r about 40 spaces. Follow signs for camping municipal le bois place.


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Re: my first trip to europe

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Posted: 30.06.2015  ·  #36
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Hi stacks. I need to renew my ADAC. How long did it take to send ADAC card, we r off on 14july?
PS there is an English translation or terms online somewhere, I found it before.


Hi Hymer544,

Well we were informed that it would take up to 10 working days because at the time of signing up there was a postal strike in Germany! In fact it took 5 working days so you should definitely be fine.

Yes all documents we got were in German. However there website is very good, using Google to translate! I registered with them online and plenty of information there. They were very quick, like a matter of minutes, to answer an email too with queries I had.

Hopefully I will never have to use them, but I sure do feel reassured I have them to call upon should I need to.

Hope that helps. Enjoy your trip. We're off to France in 3 weeks 8-)


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Re: my first trip to europe

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Posted: 03.07.2015  ·  #37
Thanks stacks. I phoned the number from the earlier post here and the guy spoke perfect English. The full transaction for all five of our details and payment was no trouble. I have confidence they will be as good when really needed. They have 15 million members! And I've seen them all over Europe many times. The cost is amazing value AND includes medical ins for whole family (for kids under 18) at 109€.can't understand why one would use any other company. We r off on 14th fr 5 weeks so hope we won't need it. Have a good trip.


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Posted: 05.07.2015  ·  #38
Just a quick question, ive got the camperstop 2015 book and im looking at getting a gps to bring with me to europe.

the camper stop book has gps co ordinates for alot of the sites so I taught a gps might be usefull, so my question is, what is the best value gps out there that will work all over Europe and be usefull in relation to my camperstop book? Thanks daithi


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Posted: 05.07.2015  ·  #39
There's been a good few post's on this topic use the search tab above you will find a lot of information. A lot depends on your personal needs Halfords is a good start


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Posted: 05.07.2015  ·  #40
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, what is the best value gps out there that will work all over Europe and be usefull in relation to my camperstop book? Thanks daithi


we had a similar dilemma before travelling overseas, and went to update our 4 year old satnav online. the wife had problems, and a quick call to the service team at tomtom revealed the new Europe maps needed more memory than our old satnav had. they offered us 25% discount if we bought a new one through them directly. we got one (that is on sale in halfrauds for £119) for £69. their service was excellent I have to say and the satnav was well up the job too. only thing , it shows speed camera points in france, which I believe is a bit iffy!!

certainly look at satnavs in halfrauds, but they WILL be cheaper elsewhere!!


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