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Posted: 24.08.2014  ·  #1
I'm not against wild camping do it myself but I think I would pick my spots with a bit of care, to my mind this is taking the p*ss but others may disagree. Annoyingly I woke up in the night wondering if they would get up and use my facilities or use my bins. 🇧🇭
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I wonder if they didn't realise there was a campsite 50yds away!

Only if they pulled up late last night of course... :lol:


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They drove past about 5pm and could not miss us as we have a huge Phoenix MH parked very close to the entrance, and if you've seen a Phoenix you'll know they are hard to miss, a thing of beauty.
Ironically there are two wild campsites further up the road, one a car park where a couple buses park up and the other being adjacent to the pier. And equally ironic the owner of the land next to me is owned by the person who owns the other campsite in the centre of the village.


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Ah well, it takes all sorts doesn't it...


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That does seem a little naughty.


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As if have said I have wild camped and will do again, would I park on a field that is privately owned without the owner's permission? No.
Would I park/stay right outside (its 30 yards from the edge of my site) a campsite? Personally no I wouldn't as I think it is taking the mick. If it was as if it was really late at night with no where else to go, if it was I could understand it, especially if I had closed early or something like that but no it arrived at 5pm and left around 12.
In fairness though I have checked the field and at least they have taken their rubbish with them.
It takes all sorts I suppose.
I like the Germans having lived there for 3 years and holiday'd there last summer but 2 have annoyed me today, (Nico).
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Did they throw down their towels to mark their spot,just kidding but it is taking the mick


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How stupid they are when a nice wee site was beside them.


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It's done now and today's another day. So all good.


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I sum jest you get a load of stones and dump them there but I doubt if many genuine motorhomers would park there with such a nice wee site close by.


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If the camping parks don't get the support they will close down wild camping and staying in pub car parks is ok but people with children need parks with facilities and should the pub parks go wrong such as random theft and vandalism we will be back to scratch like twenty years ago


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I agree we rarely wild park mainly because we have our little girl with us and we try to use camp sites and aires to support the economy.
That was cheeky to say the least and I don't blame you for having a whinge!
I think just pulling into a field on private land is a no no without permission. Again it leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths and the wrong impression of what most of us are about.


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The thing that spring to my mind is the arrogance of them, but there again they are German


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It is a bit naughty wild parking your motorhome right beside the entrance to a camp site.
Even more naughty is sneaking onsite to avail of the campsite services that one is refusing to pay for.
When I was in Keel Sandybanks in Achill a few weeks back some wild campers parked in the beach side carpark beside the campsite were sneaking in.

I wasn't particularly looking out for it, but I noticed two different wild campers availing on the facilities during normal hours.

There are lots of suitable places for wild camping in this country and it is a great privilege to have them.

Motorhomers who abuse that privilege do us all a disservice.


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The same thing is going on here in France with vans turning up at 10 or 11pm on Aires that are only €5 and they are gone again first thing in the Morning before the ticket inspector calls. More park on the street when there is plenty room in the Aires.


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For God's sake what is the world turning to? Is it any wonder we who are honest are being screwed to the hilt? We need to challenge folk as I did this week end for dumping his waste water all over the car park. He was not impressed with me and Liz was embarrased with me for doing it. We need to teach these morons that this behaviour is not acceptable as they are spoiling it for the rest of us. Rant over.


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Have done both.......stayed on site in sandy banks in keel.........when the pitch we like is available,front looking on to Minaun cliffs........payed the money.......which is not cheap by French standards.......I think it was 23e the last time we stayed........but had all the facilities. If we are only staying the one night we park on the green area up from the kids playground. Usually there are a few vans parked and we are always aware that some use the facilities of the site........so......what do ya do :* . Is there any point in saying to these people that what they are doing is WRONG........to which the usual response is........what it's got to do with ya >_< .
There will always be those amongst us who will try to do the right thing,and those who simply think that it their right to do as they please. One can only hope that there are enough of us out there that will show respect and the willingness to do the right thing and show these people up. :happy: . Rant over
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Posted: 26.08.2014  ·  #18
There are some sites which have keys for the toilets and the emptying facilities are so far into the site that you couldn't walk in and use them without being noticed. Perhaps the sites for what they charge could at least lock the toilets and implement a key system to try to cut down on the non paying foot traffic.


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Looks like "waste ground" from one angle -



There's also the other side of the coin....

The beauty of motor homing is the ability to wild camp anywhere, even if there is a campsite nearby. Understandably to the annoyance of the campsite owner. The emphasis is on the owner to make the site as attractive as it can be to make the camper want to come through the gates and stay. I'm not saying Doonbeg camping is unattractive, but I am saying that when presented with the option to stay for free on the side of a road or pay 20-30 euro to stay in an official campsite, the camper needs to see value for money. What are they getting from the campsite that's better than camping for free on the side of the road?

Personally, I've only visited the doonbeg website. It looks small but well appointed and just the kind of campsite we seek out.

The other option -

Get in touch with the land owner (who is a campsite owner you say) and tell him that folks are camping on his property. He is in the same trade as you and he should sympathise with your loss of income from a situation like this. If he was any good, he'd put up a pair of gates.
Remove competition (the "waste ground") and you then become the only option on that stretch of road.


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To comment on some of the previous emails, in no particular order.
Thought about handing out keys to people staying to use the Toilet Block but looking at the pros and cons I decided against it, I have heard of sites charging lots of money as deposits to ensure return of the keys. I thought about a combination lock as well, but I did not fancy getting woken up in the middle of the night if a camper forgot the code. So in the end the Toilet Block is open 24/7.
I agree the beauty of a MH is the ability to legally park up and stay on or off a campsite. The photo view from Kevin shows the entrance to Tommy's land, Tommy owns a static campsite in the village and ultimately he hopes to get planning permission to build on his plot. Tommy has been very helpful to me since I came over in March and I have advised him he is starting to get people parking on his land and I am sure he will put a stop to it.
My point was and is that I personally feel this is being a bit cheeky, whilst it may look like waste land it is not, someone owns it, there are two places further down the road which are regularly used for wild camping. I do try to make my campsite inviting and competitively priced and whilst to some including myself a few years back who thought running a campsite is money for old rope, all you need is a filed and people pay to park on it, it really is not like that, the overheads and capital outlay are significant, the money I have already spent improving the campsite this year will not be recouped until the end of 2016 season. I have done some jobs on the campsite which I would not have even watched others do in the past.
I am very aware of customer care and cleanliness and really try to excel in this area we now have 5 reviews on trip advisor all of which give a score of 5 out 5 so at the moment we must being doing something right.
And yes the site is small, very small 20 bays in total but it is unusual in this area as it is not an addition to statics, it is dedicated to tourers, in tents, caravans and of course MHs.
Like other have posted, I have seen people un plugging from an EHU minutes before the warden comes round and people arriving late and leaving early to avoid payment. My view this is theft pure and simple. Would these same people condemn someone for shop lifting probably yes but that is in essence what they are doing.
When you meet me you will realise that I am not always this grumpy!!

Regards Jamie.
One final point, a number of people in the village have said I should get on to the Council to get the wild camping on the pier stopped, and others have also offered to put up a sign stating it is illegal to park over night. I have not contacted the Council (nor will I) and said no to the sign. I agree with the wild camping it brings people into the village and the area and they will spend money somewhere which helps the village as whole and maybe they will have a look at my site and decide to stay on the campsite next time.


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Posted: 26.08.2014  ·  #21
Jamie, I agree wholeheartedly with what you have said and are trying to do. The German's were cheeky in doing what they did especially as it was private land. Wild camping in public places is fine by me as i have done and will continue to do it but never on private land without the owners permission. I have both in my caravan days and even with the motorhome stayed on sites and paid the deposit for the keys to the loo and will do it again sometime in the future but would never even consider using a site without paying.


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Posted: 26.08.2014  ·  #22
Jamie,

Congrats on your reviews on trip advisor. I wish I was off for the next month and would be delighted to give you some of my money. Well done. I will endeavor to make it up once you open for your new season. :up:


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Posted: 27.08.2014  ·  #23
And I will more than happy to take it. See you next Year.
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