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Posted: 27.07.2014  ·  #1
Hi folks bit of a long shot I have a 1993 Hymer based on a 2.5td Fiat Ducato 290 chassis. Found an oil pressure sensor (not even sure if it is mine) on the under tray yesterday and for the life of me i can see where it has come from - question is does anyone know where the oil pressure sensor is located on the engine. I would have thought it would have been chucking oil to but for the life of me I cannot see where it fits on the block.

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Posted: 27.07.2014  ·  #2
Hi Broms,
I have just logged on an dcannot think where it is on the unit, but i will have a squint around the engine tomorrow. I think it will be around the front of the engine as i was trying to get the older type sensor that pumps the oil presure upto a dial and place a t- bar join in.
I collected an old three dial set from a Capri and wanted to attach but got no further.
Get back to you when i get into the engine bay, do you have a red warning light on while engine is running?


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HI Hessy - thanks for getting back to me.

No no warning light at all which doesn't make a lot of sense - I do have an oil leak from the rocker cover which I will sort out tomorrow but for the life of me I can't figure out where the oil sensor should go. I would have expected to have a warning light on and oil peeing out everywhere LOl

IF it helps the water sensors are at the rear of the engine on the left hand side (drivers side). Got a new one coming and should be here tomorrow all being well.

Many thanks again

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Posted: 28.07.2014  ·  #4
Hi Broms,
I had a look both in the mechanical manual and the engine bay this evening and this is where i am:
The Manual shows the switch at the main crank level and located at the front of the engine. If you look at the engine from underneath (Front to back) - to the left of centre is the oil pump and i think the switch goes into the engine block I think?
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Posted: 28.07.2014  ·  #5
Hessy you area a star - thank you for this it makes life a lot easier now I know where i am meant to be looking :-)

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Posted: 28.07.2014  ·  #6
on a 2.5 Fiat ducato , it's usually at the rear , near the alternator area .


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Posted: 29.07.2014  ·  #7
Thanks Tristan will have a proper look later today -headless chicken time at the moment but will get to it today.

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Posted: 29.07.2014  ·  #8
Well Phil - any joy in finding it?
Front or rear of the engine? :'(
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Posted: 29.07.2014  ·  #9
Well I found the water sensors LOL - I popped it down to the garage this afternoon and they reckon that the pair (temp and pressure) of oil sensors are fitted and in place. The sensors are are the rear of the engine at the opposite end to the water sensors - so the oil sensors are at the opposite end to the alternator. I don't know if any two of these engines are the same - mine is RHD as well which I think makes a difference. Got some running around in it this weekend so will update this accordingly.

Thank you folks once again you have come to the fore - it is appreciated.

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Posted: 30.07.2014  ·  #10
LHD makes no difference whatsoever.


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LHD just means that the steering is on the left hand side.


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Posted: 31.07.2014  ·  #12
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LHD just means that the steering is on the left hand side.


:lol: Jack has it nailed :D :D :lol: :D

What if you are looking at the front of the vehicle and reversing - :lol:

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Ah well then the sterring wheel is on your right hand. Highly technical stuff this and not for the faint hearted.


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Posted: 31.07.2014  ·  #14
Just driven up to dublin airport in it and it hasn't dumped any oil so fingers crossed its nothing to worry about


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Posted: 08.08.2014  ·  #15
Tristan is 100% correct. :up:

The rain allowed me to get under the engine today and it was GREAT!!! :up:
Checked Gear Oil level, seen a small droplet of power steering fluid sitting at a join, Engine oil slight seep from sump screw. Usual - for a 22 yr old i think?

Remember checking Oil, Water, Hydraulic Fluids, Gear Oils and Cooling fluids before taking off on a drive? Nowadays Vehicles tell you on a screen - I need attention :lol:

On the 290 the oil pressure pipe is bent round the alternator attached to the front of the engine with a rubber hose. The Oil pressure switch is under a Brown Coloured cover.

Has anyone any ideas if a seperate sensor to push the pressure to a old time gauge might be placed in this arrangement?
It should allow me to see when the pressure drops and when an oil change is required :-)


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Posted: 09.08.2014  ·  #16
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It should allow me to see when the pressure drops and when an oil change is required :-)


Not really! The only thing which will drop your pressure noticably will be worn big-end and main bearings or the pump itself. Its the bearing clearance which creates the presure, not the thickness of the oil.

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Posted: 09.08.2014  ·  #17
Excellent - the experts are on the case now! :happy:

Boxerman - could i place a T connector into the line to install the pressure line~?
Does anyone know are they a standard fitting as my Presure Gauge and line is off a Capri? About 2mm internal diameter capillary tube.

Its more off a folie connecting it on similar to the Ammeter and Voltmeter in the trio set out off the Capri. When i connect one i will connect the other two also.

Thanks for your assistance Boxerman and I got a couple of Cargo Straps/hooks to assist with the strut replacement - hopefully install before Christmas. The Bearing replacement job i did seems grand so far. No Grinds or movements out of her since. :up:


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Quote by Hessy Hymer

Excellent - the experts are on the case now! :happy:

Boxerman - could i place a T connector into the line to install the pressure line~?

Are you sure that the rubber hose is a pressure line and not just a breather? Oil pressure in an engine is not that high but I would expect a metal pipe if it was an external pressure line?
If you're sure it is then I can't see why not.Bear in mind that if it is a high pressure hose then it could have a steel braid under the rubber cover.
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Does anyone know are they a standard fitting as my Presure Gauge and line is off a Capri? About 2mm internal diameter capillary tube.

Mine was a Smiths gauge (which moved from car to car) and it had a nylon pipe, I think the fitting was 1/4" but not sure now - long time ago. Your best bet is to take your bits to a hydraulic pipe shop and let them match up what you want.

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Its more off a folie connecting it on similar to the Ammeter and Voltmeter in the trio set out off the Capri. When i connect one i will connect the other two also.

Alternators don't like ammeters, to wire it correctly you need thick cable from the '+' on the alternator right up into the cab to one terminal of the ammeter, then another cable, just as thick from the other ammeter terminal to the battery / distribution point. the Capri probably had a dynamo. Voltmeters are much easier to fit.

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Thanks for your assistance Boxerman and I got a couple of Cargo Straps/hooks to assist with the strut replacement - hopefully install before Christmas.

I used 3, don't use the hooks, they might slip, the webbing grips the spring better.

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Posted: 10.08.2014  ·  #19
Cheers Frank - The Oil Sensor is piped into a Metal Pipe and this is shaped around the Alernator housing, but into this metal pipe from the front end of the engine is a rubber hose section - about 6 inch long - but i will follow it around again to be sure it is the correct piping arrangement :-|

It is a nylon pipe and a hose shop should be able to give me a step up joint to suit the arrangement. =)

Loads of dials and monitors on Hessy's driver area soon :lol:

Yeah - the downward spiral of the suspension spring could allow the hooks to slip easier than the webbing - thanks - never thought of it till you mentioned :up: Probably saved me a black eye or worse :o


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These two Sensors ( I think) are to the left of engine {looking into the cab} - above the alternator and just above the engine mount, just behind the timing belt cover.
There is a green wire running into one and I have had an additional green wire (3mm think) which i think goes to the top one. Unsure if it solders on - but the item i cannot get a socket drive onto due to insufficient space - so i will get a 22 mm spanner onto it tomorrow.

Can someone confirm that this is a oil sensor? And that the green wire goes to it - and that it should solder on?

Also - its ok to take out and there shouldnt be any spillage? Thanks?

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Posted: 20.02.2015  ·  #22
It wasnt a oil sensor :o
Blinking Coolent temp sensor 🇧🇭

Fluid p*ssed out everywhere - 🇧🇭
Hessy must have the most changed coolent fluid ever as given the installation of the webasto, then new webasto pump etc - there is 15 litres through her this year :o

Does anyone else use pure antifreeze?

Does anyone use a non water antifreeze????


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Never had to change it, but on the musso (merc 5cyl engine) I have replaced it and used a ready mixed coolant which I got in Spain as that is where it resides. Had to replace it as the heat of the sun had dried up the coolant and the battery!


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By rights your coolant mix should be changed every 3 years... no one does it though <_<


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