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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #1

hi all , just want to know what kind of jack is everyone using to change punctures ,the one supplied with my camper is very stiff to use with a very long handle, thinking about using a 3 ton trolly jack. twin wheel transit [rimor], thanks john

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #2

mine has come with a scissor jack! and to be hones I dont trust lifting the motorhome on it so carry a bottle jack as well as an air compressor and tyre weld, just in case

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #3

I carry two cans of tyre weld. If that doest work its put on the kettle and call the breakdown service.

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #4

Small bottle jack, mechanical not hydraulic came with it, never had to use it. 3 ton trolley jack would be too heavy for our van, it would use up too much payload capacity. It might be alright for you seeing that yours is twin wheel.

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #5

Mine has the scissor jack which i had the missfortune to use last year,it lifts the van high enough but is very unsteady as you have to lift it extra high to retrieve the spare wheel from underneath.

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #6

It's a good reason to have breakdown cover

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #7

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Mine has the scissor jack which i had the missfortune to use last year,it lifts the van high enough but is very unsteady as you have to lift it extra high to retrieve the spare wheel from underneath.

That sounds very Dangerous if you have to crawl under the van while it is up on a unsteady jack to retrieve the spare. Ours is probably the same,I never removed the spare since we got it.

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #8

I bought a trolley jack just in case. Although have to admit not sure how to use it.

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #9

Pat,I busted my knuckles trying to remove the spare wheel because the holder was corroded,I have since had it heated up and lubricated and I check it at every service just to make sure it can be removed more easily.

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #10

In my Adria Vision they have made it easy as the spare is in the Garage. Very easy to get out.

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #11

Siobhan makes all Notre to task Paul with the job of checking out about the spare wheel, instead of finishing reading the most riveting case study!!! Wonder how much road side assist costs!

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #12

Quote by petie

A very good tip, Peter! Take note Guys, I must check my own.

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· Posted: 09.01.2014 · #13

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Wonder how much road side assist costs!

It's part of my insurance cover.

Last summer I decided to do a trial run. Kids were not around, it was dry, van was level and nice and safe round the back of the house. I did manage it but my conclusion was no way would I try it out on the open road.

So as I said earlier. Its tyre weld and if that doesn't work then its call the breakdown service.

I had a flat in the car recently and it doesn't have a spare. It does have a rather complex puncture repair kit. But if you use it you have to replace the tyre. Anyway out comes the can of tyre weld. Screwed it on, turned the knob and it work perfectly.

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· Posted: 10.01.2014 · #14

Shiv steer, some insurance policies have an element of breakdown cover, Dolmen has which covers all of Ireland, I also have a dedicated policy for when I'm in Europe just in case but I won't be renewing it this year as I have no plans as yet to go the in the motorhome.

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· Posted: 10.01.2014 · #15

I get the guys who service our van to ensure the spare wheel carrier is free and working each year.

I also have got the puncture sealant in the tyres when they were replace.

Also have addition European breakdown cover.
I must say my jack is the original scissor type.

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #16

Scissors jacks are a potential killer. Over the years I have seen at least 5 cars move forward or back a couple of inches and cause jack to collapse, saw one go up through body of car and one snap. I was helping a mate put in brake pads and he only had a scissor jack , I didn't trust it and put a cement block under antiroll bar, didn't realize his handbrake wasn't great and sure enough he leaned on car while I had both hands under car, I thanked that cement block

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #17

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I have since bought a 3ton trolley jack,I did a trial run on the van ,jacked up ok,but could only get the spare wheel by lying on my back and sliding under neath between the back axle and the garage,carrier seized, works on a wire rope system..angle grinder solved all that,now the spare wheel is in its new home in the garage,nice and clean and dry, now I only have to train swmbo

to change the punctures a little bit faster. Lol. Now ask yourself when have YOU last seen YOUR spare wheel and is it free?

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #18

Having a van conversion I don't have a garage so no choice but to leave underneath.
Problem with mine is that do to having a Towbar fitted I have to jack up the back of the van to get enough height to drop the wheel carrier no way I would trust the van jack so if we do get a puncture it is going to be put the kettle on and wait for Green Flag.
At home I have a 3 tonne jack that solves the problem but no way is there anywhere in the van to keep it

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #19

Have two 3 ton jacks. Got caught out last year,,,never again.On older vans ,you need to check the tyre carrier and see will it function properly .Try it in the rain ,at dusk on an uneven surface and see how it goes.Also make sure your brace is up to the job.I carry a small length of tubing to go over the brace for extra leverage.

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #20

I got caught out with our old pilote. Puncture in back wheel, pulled in and looked for jack, there wasn't one.
I had pulled into Kellys caravan Park in Portrush so they lent me a trolley jack. Used the brace and bent it. Borrowed one from caravan site and bent it too. Had to call the AA out who used a long bar with an extension.
I made sure after that, that we have everything we need now!

Good idea to go around all your nuts and loosen them off once a year and retighten as they seize on through time.

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #21

Sorry would it not be safer all round not to just call the AA or whoever....
(Siobhan has never changed a tyre - I stand flicking my hair and looking distraught

and if no one comes to my aid then I dial the number.)

Anyone have any experience of gel or foam in their tires so you don't get punctures has anyone else tried this approach?

My boss has gel filled tires on his Lexus and swears by them!

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #22

Not happy with gel filled tyres on a Motorhome never mind a car.

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #23

I don't fancy lifting my van at all, would use the AA.
I drive Lwb transit in work, we are not allowed to change a wheel if van has any load on (h&s) we must call the tyre company who do our repairs.

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #24

I have a high lift jack similar to land rovers with a rear wheel carrier.

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #25

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Not happy with gel filled tyres on a Motorhome never mind a car.

Some like it but like jack says not keen on it, tyre fitter I know hates the stuff

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #26

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We have a 10 ton bottle jack and it has more than enough to get the job done. It also stows away nicely as it's fairly tidy in size...

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· Posted: 17.01.2014 · #27

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #28

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #29

I always take the spare out first I back the camper up on the levelling block this gives enough room to get the spare out I have a two ton bottle jack and a square block of wood I have a disposable overalls with hi vis stripes gloves I keep all in bag I would take thirty minutes to change a wheel
I would never get under the camper

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #30

Paddyx you are certainly organised.

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #31

I got caught out to often going west with the boat and trailer best to be prepared

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #32

Good for you it's just I never think about it until it happens and the it's too late.

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #33

Backing a motorhome up onto leveling blocks would be a bit of a problem if the back tyre is the one which is flat.

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #34

With all this talk of jacks etc, why do we carry it if we have breakdown cover, that's what that's for

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #35

Well FC in that case you would drive in forward and up on the block.

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· Posted: 18.01.2014 · #36

Still would be difficult if a rear is flat as a lot of spares are underneath at the rear and it makes for increased height which you have to jack up

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· Posted: 20.01.2014 · #37

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· Posted: 20.01.2014 · #38

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· Posted: 20.01.2014 · #39

it was jacks fault (get the pun

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ok I'll quit while i'm ahead

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· Posted: 20.01.2014 · #40

Haven't had a puncture yet but from the manual I'm told I just push a button and all four wheels lift up off the ground for tyre changing!

Kinda can't wait for one actually....

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