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Posted: 10.10.2013  ·  #1
At the moment I am planning to go to Morocco sometime next year. I've started to research the whole thing and was wondering if any Craicers have gone there and what their experiences are?. Any info would be appreciated such as length of stay, camp sites, aires etc.


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I have been to Tunisia and Egypt on holiday and if they are anything to go by then I wouldn't tour there, I stayed in hotels and ventured out to see the sites and I did not feel comfortable away from there. They have a disregard for women in general and only men work, but it also applies to socialising in that apart from tourists there are no women to be seen and any there were about wore the full burka robes. Another thing to consider is the whole Arab spring/al shabab terrorist thing, some of the extremists hate westerners and their beliefs! Check carefully with the foreign office for travel advice before you book anything.

Apart from that! Have you planned how to get there.


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Hi Jack,

worth a visit to motorhomefacts as many people have taken their motorhomes there. I believe there is even a member who leads organised tours. The general feel I get from the posts that I have read (sampled) is that is very tolerant of tourists and motorhomes seem to be very welcome. it seems to be a country that is stable !? and reasonably westernised. The Moroccan people seem to be very friendly and there are lots of references to sites and stopovers. Can't remember any negative posts on peoples experiences.

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There is a company called Desert detours do trips over to Morocco from Spain. may be worth looking them up.


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Well it's good to hear of good experiences, because all I could comment on was my own experience of other countries in the region. You could keep a blog on here to keep us all up to date on the journey etc.


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Jack.I don't have any personal expierence of Morocco, but I did meet a guy from Cork at Woodstown beach during the summer who was there last year with his motorhomes and he couldn't stop praising the place and the people.


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How exciting! Looking forward to hearing more.


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Posted: 10.10.2013  ·  #9
Jack I have been to Morocco. Casablanca and Marakesh, not in a motorhome.
It is a lovely country, but the drivers are the worst I have ever seen I would not try it.
The people are friendly but everywhere they are begging or touting for business as a guide or worse. White women are not safe alone hygiene is poor food is iffy and towns in general dirty. That's my experience
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This months MMM motorhome magazine has an article on morocco.......site looks good and no bad reports. :sleep: :up:


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I was on holiday in Morocco two years ago and made it my business to speak to motorhomers in Agadir. They said it was great, you have to be careful and no wild camping on your own. There were about 20 or so in a carpark a few k out side the town. One guy from Clare who had been going there for years said the police had started to move people out to an official campsite but taxis were cheap so no problem. The English seem to travel in convoy so it should be ok.
I found the people and the food nice and I strayed well outside the tourist strip. Motorhome"fun" had also some threads on it if I remember right. So far its stable and they are not ultra Islamic. We saw lots of young couples walking hand in hand on the boardwalk in the evenings and the girls were beautifuly but modestly dressed and the headscarf seemed to be optional.


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Morrocco is no problem. There are a lot of overland trucks doing Trans Africa trips (trucks with a bunch of tourists camping on the back) and NW Africa trips, so there is a fairly good infrastructure for campsites and in good spots all across the country. The overland trucks have to get their visas for west and central africa there so usually they stay in the country for a month doing allsorts of things. My advice for the best and most honest upto date info, if you see one of those trucks (you will know them when you see them) on the ferry over or elsewhere, stop have a chat with the driver and tour leader, they will point you in the right direction and give allsorts of useful tips too. Beautiful country plenty to do, respect their customs they will respect yours.
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We got a ferry from Spain hired a car and spent a month driving.My sister lives there and is married to a Moroccan guy.
motorways are brilliant with very little traffic on the toll roads.
The country side is beautiful.tangier is a dump and the people will hound you.Rabat is pretty much like a European city so is Casablanca.be prepared to see miles of shanty/slums entering citys.Marrakesh is over rated in my opinion and full of scamers and hustlers.Assaouira is beautiful and relaxed and well worth a visit and driving in the countryside south of it is lovely.driving in towns and citys is an absolute nightmare.people are grand but you will be constantly bothered and harassed although i never felt threatened.you Will be ripped off from morning till night if you dont wise up very fast.money and poverty live side by side. the food is mediocre at very best.i do think that the best way to see Morocco would be in a motorhome/camper but do your homework.i could not really recommend the city's.stock up in the supermarkets which are fine,learn a few words ie...NO...NO thank you and go away.People are mostly gentle and nice.we had a few beers in a couple of bars and hotels where unaccompanied women were served and never hassled.we bought beers in off licenses.although few and far between and the shopping center down the street from my sisters place in Casablanca reserve a till at a certain hour of the evening for people buying booze and you might be surprised how many people like a tipple of an evening.i never witnessed anything extreme and in the main citys the girls wear high heels and the latest fashions and go to mc donalds..i would get an up to date guide book.hope this is of some help and good luck. Paul


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Marakesh went saw would never go back! Worst holiday I have ever had. I was traveling with a female friend and gave up trying to leave the hotel due to being harassed (I was very respectful and covered my arms and legs but did not cover my head). I was spat at and had my hair pulled.
It may have been different if I had been with my partner but I would never go back. Sorry but that is my pennies worth. Oh and the food was awful - I never thought chicken had ribs!!!!!!!!


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I would never recommend females going to those "Arab" type countries on their own as a lot of them have no respect for women on their own without a chaperon


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i am not defending Morocco and would not recommend anybody going there unprepared but in the spirit of fairness most of what is on that page could be applied to Belfast,London or New york.
Also, i forgot to mention that if you do go there and are visiting a city a very good idea is to hire a reputable guide for the day[not hard to find]they will stop you being constantly hassled and will show you around and are cheap for their time although they will no doubt want to take you to their uncles leather shop where they earn commission but it will make for a better experience.
a few words of french can be very beneficial also.
navigation can be tough as you can never be sure of whether an address will be in french,Arabic or have numerous spellings. i bought the Garmin Morrocco maps for navigation and had no trouble, as long as you can access google maps the night before travel and cross reference the address with your sat nav.to be honest i also prefer to do that in Ireland .the sat nav took us right to my sisters door in Casablanca and everywhere else we punched in.
To sum up Morocco is not a bad place to go and can be great when you are prepared and dont turn up with silly romantic or poetic/hippy type notions.from what i remember dihrams do not go in or out of the country and maps are not for sale[dont ask me].
in aaseouira my wife could walk around alone without being hassled.i would probably say the same for Rabat and Casablanca but as the lady in a previous post said i doubt i would say the same for Marrakesh or tangier.i often thought at the time that it would be such a brilliant destination but for the constant hassle of tourists and could not figure out why the authorities do nothing to stamp it out , but hard as it is for us to understand and counterproductive to their economy that is just the way things work there and you accept it or get out.the things that make sense to Moroccans in Morocco do not necessarily make sense to us.for example,my brother in law went to college in Holland and can work in the city of London, Belgium,Paris,Newcastle or where ever in any given month in some sort of computer/ it/comms job that after 20 years i still have no idea about ,but when he is in Morocco he would think nothing of driving in the middle of the road like everybody else o.O he wouldn't see any problem while we are in the back seat quivering although he would not dream of doing this in London.it is just the culture and if you go there you will get plenty of that.best of luck ;-) Paul.
ps. i will have a look at my garmin account and see if the maps are authorized for more than one unit and if so will sell them for a consideration if anybody is interested.


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Ha, your a brave man jack, hope ur belly is able for it


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I've only been down as far as Rabat. Didn't like it, wont be going again.
All I can remember is hassle, constant harrasment and a massive hustle & bustle of natives all trying to make a dime. The busy scenes you see in the likes of Indiana Jones are an ideal representation of just how I remember it. Some folks like that sort of thing, but not for me.


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Guys thanks for the info I'm beginning to have second thoughts. Better to be forewarned and not walk into something blindly. We are discussing it now in the light of other folks experience.


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I hope all the information helps I think it depends on what kind of "holiday" you want!
I think everything said both positive and negative gives a good overview of the country.

Let us now the outcome!


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Posted: 17.01.2014  ·  #21
Will surely Shivster but Liz is keen even though I shown her the comments. I would prefer France although we are going there this year anyway but no reason why we can't go twice. It's a big enough country.


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Will surely Shivster but Liz is keen even though I shown her the comments. I would prefer France although we are going there this year anyway but no reason why we can't go twice. It's a big enough country.


go for it.you have been warned.the countryside from what i have seen is quite like california/texas.most of the negatives are associated with cities.


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Posted: 18.01.2014  ·  #23
Why not take a short package holiday and rent a car just to test the water out, it may be enough to sway you either way.


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Posted: 18.01.2014  ·  #24
Remember France isn't the only country in Europe, it's a big place with loads of different cultures in each country never mind the number of countries so why not explore all of that first


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I know a lady who lived in Morocco for 11 years, as she was a missionary she had to work in secret and had a securer job as a cover story. It sounded quite hostile.


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Posted: 18.01.2014  ·  #26
I would just love to go off in the Motorhome get a ferry to France and then decide where to go as we go along.


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Posted: 18.01.2014  ·  #27
Got free tickets for the show at Balmoral and going tomorrow afternoon. Maybe Liz might see something else that will change her mind.


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Posted: 18.01.2014  ·  #28
Why not follow your thought process and do just that, it's what Motorhomes were designed for


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You will more than likely get package holiday offers at the show but they are good for ideas of countries to visit


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Posted: 18.01.2014  ·  #30
Yeah FC to keep the peace I think that's what I might end up doing. Watch this space.


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Just for your info jack, at Jackson's this weekend, try to make sure you get a room in the new wing as the old ones are apparently a bit tired, we are in a suite and they are fantastic. Food is great and plenty of it.


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I know a lady who lived in Morocco for 11 years, as she was a missionary she had to work in secret and had a securer job as a cover story. It sounded quite hostile.


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Posted: 25.01.2014  ·  #34
Paul I think we have decided to go for a few days by air possibly a week end to see what it's like. Then we will decide if we will go for a longer period in the Motorhome.


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I think that is the sensible thing to do, try renting a car while there and venture away from the cities to get a feel for it before committing to a long motorhome holiday :up: :up:


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Posted: 25.01.2014  ·  #36
Yeah FC I think that's the wise thing as Liz is determined that she wants to go so I would rather put my toe in the water than my whole foot as it were. Holidays in hotels is not my cup of tea. But anyway....


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good idea. if you hire a car be careful as i said there idea of driving is nothing like ours.be aware that there really are no rules.people will drive in the middle of the road or walk across a six lane motorway at rush hour.always expect the unexpected and get out of the cities as fast as possible.when hiring the car take video evidence as the deposit on hire cars is very high for good reason.i think we layed down close to a thousand euro deposit for a month.if you fly in to Marrakesh definitely go to aasueria.the countryside around it is lovely and you will not be troubled by people,the roads are brilliant with hardly any cars.there is a lovely spot just south of aasueria that is popular with surfers.when we were driving around we came across goat herders having a nap in the middle of the road.they were genuinely surprised to see a car.now that was the real Morocco to me.we never witnessed any hostility and have never seen so many men walking around linking arms,which may be a custom but where i come from it is a fairly good indication that a person may be gay.if you do some research you will find that morocco has very strong links with America and has since world war two.
they are well aware of which side their bread is buttered on.if you can speak some french it would be handy.as i said before i am not defending the place and would not be bothered going back on holiday but to keep some balance.it is a nice place and could be a great experience if it werent for the fact that somebody is irritating you on a constant basis IN THE CITIES. best of luck. paul


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Posted: 26.01.2014  ·  #38
Good Info. there Paul.
I think I will steer clear of the place, Its a holiday I want not Hassle!


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Posted: 27.01.2014  ·  #39
It looks as if the focus has changed again. Some holiday that is advertised is some Woman's Mag.


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Woman's Mag.


I can see us going back to talking about 12v hair dryers again :D


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