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 ·  Posted: 17.02.2024  ·  #1
Hi, just wondering if anyone got their timing belt done yet. I'm being quoted €1200 + vat by a Fiat main dealer to do the job. They've done the mechanical servicing for me on the van up to now. This includes a new water pump. Is that price to be expected?
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 ·  Posted: 17.02.2024  ·  #2
John I had my Fiat based MH done by EMC autos in Ennis it was around €700.
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 ·  Posted: 17.02.2024  ·  #3
At an ordinary garage it should be €400 to €450, at a main dealer about €500 to €600.
That's for a regular cab (low profile or coachbuilt) for an A Class expect to be charged more because of difficult access resulting in a higher labour charge.
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It's a low profile coachbuilt, he told me the kit was around €600 and the labour would be the same. I'll try EMC autos in Ennis, thanks
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 ·  Posted: 17.02.2024  ·  #5
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It's a low profile coachbuilt, he told me the kit was around €600 and the labour would be the same. I'll try EMC autos in Ennis, thanks


Maximum price for parts should be around €200. Have a look here https://www.auto-doc.ie/car-pa…omSearch=1
Four hours labour is the ballpark time for changing the timing belt on a standard Ducato (not an A Class)

Your quote seems like a serious rip-off, or the person doing the quote doesn't know what he/she is talking about.
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 ·  Posted: 20.02.2024  ·  #6
Regarding the water pump.
My mh has the post 2002 2.8 JTD (Iveco 8140.43N engine), I was advised when getting the first timing belt replacement in 2010 (5 years on from first registration) the there was no need to replace the water pump unless it was showing signs that it needed replacement as unlike earlier versions of the engine if/when it needed to be done it is a job which could be done without stripping down as is necessary for a timing belt change.
At 19 years old my mh is due next year for its fourth timing belt change but is still on its original water pump. Mileage or should I say kilometerage is 152,000km
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 ·  Posted: 21.02.2024  ·  #7
I get the timing belt and water pump replaced in a main Fiat dealer last April. €1025 including vat .
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 ·  Posted: 21.02.2024  ·  #8
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I get the timing belt and water pump replaced in a main Fiat dealer last April. €1025 including vat .


Tried a second main dealer today and they were quoting €1150 incl vat. Waiting on a local garage that services motorhomes to come back to me with pricing.
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 ·  Posted: 21.02.2024  ·  #9
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Regarding the water pump.
My mh has the post 2002 2.8 JTD (Iveco 8140.43N engine), I was advised when getting the first timing belt replacement in 2010 (5 years on from first registration) the there was no need to replace the water pump unless it was showing signs that it needed replacement as unlike earlier versions of the engine if/when it needed to be done it is a job which could be done without stripping down as is necessary for a timing belt change.
At 19 years old my mh is due next year for its fourth timing belt change but is still on its original water pump. Mileage or should I say kilometerage is 152,000km


Spoke with cara motorhomes today and they were recommending getting the water pump done as he had seen a lot of problems over the last few years where the water pumps hadn't been replaced when the timing belt was done
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 ·  Posted: 21.02.2024  ·  #10
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Quote by baguette

Regarding the water pump.
My mh has the post 2002 2.8 JTD (Iveco 8140.43N engine), I was advised when getting the first timing belt replacement in 2010 (5 years on from first registration) the there was no need to replace the water pump unless it was showing signs that it needed replacement as unlike earlier versions of the engine if/when it needed to be done it is a job which could be done without stripping down as is necessary for a timing belt change.
At 19 years old my mh is due next year for its fourth timing belt change but is still on its original water pump. Mileage or should I say kilometerage is 152,000km


Spoke with cara motorhomes today and they were recommending getting the water pump done as he had seen a lot of problems over the last few years where the water pumps hadn't been replaced when the timing belt was done


In as much as it pi***s me off to say, if you were going to do the work yourself you would replace the pump, is there a major problem with the pump. "No" but Fiat have created a fault in a system that isn't there,
Instead of good Service, profits are made when there is a hint and a threat of dier consequence. in order to make bonus for their mechanics, instead of paying a good wage.
I'll bet there are Ducatoes out there with big milage that never had a belt replaced, never mind a pump.
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 ·  Posted: 22.02.2024  ·  #11
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Regarding the water pump.
My mh has the post 2002 2.8 JTD (Iveco 8140.43N engine), I was advised when getting the first timing belt replacement in 2010 (5 years on from first registration) the there was no need to replace the water pump unless it was showing signs that it needed replacement as unlike earlier versions of the engine if/when it needed to be done it is a job which could be done without stripping down as is necessary for a timing belt change.
At 19 years old my mh is due next year for its fourth timing belt change but is still on its original water pump. Mileage or should I say kilometerage is 152,000km


Spoke with cara motorhomes today and they were recommending getting the water pump done as he had seen a lot of problems over the last few years where the water pumps hadn't been replaced when the timing belt was done


Personally, I wouldn't give Cara a lot of credibility.
As has been said, an ordinary garage it should be €400 to €450, at a main dealer about €500 to €600. Add in a water pump which should cost in the region of €70 SEE HERE plus the bit of labour to swap it in and you shouldn't be adding more than €100 to the above figures.

IMHO, the whole idea of replacing the water pump as part of the timing belt change is a bit of a rip-off, to me it's like the 'standard' charge added during a service for topping up the windscreen washer fluid. A water pump is a very simple piece of kit, it either leaks or its bearing is worn, both conditions are easily assessed by any competent mechanic, and if it is not leaking and its bearing sounds in good condition why replace it.
It's very easy for someone else to spend your money. Having said that, considering that the labour time for doing the water pump alone is similar to a timing belt change ( the same parts are in the way and must be removed and reinstated) it may be a good insurance investment to get the water pump done at the same time.

CLICK HERE for an independent list or prices, which confirm the prices mentioned above are not a million miles out.
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