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Posted: 30.12.2023  ·  #1
After spending quite a few quid on the MH this year I was wondering if it is better to change the van every few years or keep for a long time. Over our 40 years of Motorhoming we have had 7 vans. Our first 4 were campers and no 5 was a brand new A Class This brought us up to about year 9. We kept this a couple of years and because of the family growing changed to an overcab that was fully loaded. Kept this until 2003 when we bought the present one new (now 20 years old)
The good points for sticking with this one;
We know the van, thinks have gone wrong but have been fixed. It hasn't cost us a lot in maintenance, just consumables like tyres etc.
We have added the things that we wanted to make it more comfortable, efficient etc.
We havnt lost out in trade in values. Not paying high loan rates I approached a dealer who said he could sell it for 45% of what I paid for it.
Not so good points:
It's getting old. damage to panels etc harder to find/repair.
Things, are going to wear out.
May now start to cost more to keep it on the road.

These are only a few things to think about but it is a no brainier for us. Keep it until it gives up the ghost or we do.

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Posted: 30.12.2023  ·  #2
I suppose it comes down to affordability, have you the ability to come up with £60/80k, or more, for a new van. Considering most prople would say, new vans are not built as good as some of the old ones, what you'd you buy with the build quality of the one you have.?
Put that against the upkeep for the next 10 years, consider what you've put into it in the last 10 years, as a comparison.

Do you need something that big, are you still travelling with family.?
Would a 7 x 2.9 mtr A Class or Low Profile, better suite your needs for the next 20years, or until they stop you driving.
Have you had any hassle with the tag axle, this year in France, I had to show my van at check in, on 3 occasions, because they didn't allow tag axle m/h.

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Posted: 30.12.2023  ·  #3
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After spending quite a few quid on the MH this year I was wondering if it is better to change the van every few years or keep for a long time. Over our 40 years of Motorhoming we have had 7 vans. Our first 4 were campers and no 5 was a brand new A Class This brought us up to about year 9. We kept this a couple of years and because of the family growing changed to an overcab that was fully loaded. Kept this until 2003 when we bought the present one new (now 20 years old)
The good points for sticking with this one;
We know the van, thinks have gone wrong but have been fixed. It hasn't cost us a lot in maintenance, just consumables like tyres etc.
We have added the things that we wanted to make it more comfortable, efficient etc.
We havnt lost out in trade in values. Not paying high loan rates I approached a dealer who said he could sell it for 45% of what I paid for it.
Not so good points:
It's getting old. damage to panels etc harder to find/repair.
Things, are going to wear out.
May now start to cost more to keep it on the road.

These are only a few things to think about but it is a no brainier for us. Keep it until it gives up the ghost or we do.

Only you have the answer to all them deep inside ye Tommy,I’m out in Portrush tonight heading to a dealer in the morning, what will come of it I don’t know, but wat i do know is, I’ve been hooked badly on travelling the roads and camping in this wee conversion of ours, but think it’s time to move on ,now that I know this is what I want in years to come I’m going to view Motorhomes tomorrow, I have looked till I’m blue in the face at mh’s, I’ve rightly or wrongly always thought our van was always going to be only good enough for a first van , people have told me to keep it but I’m thinking I’ll not have nothing worthy if that’s the right word until I have a mh , but it’s a mine field


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Posted: 30.12.2023  ·  #4
I was thinking along the same lines myself, and have decided to keep going , we love the van we have and have put extras on like yourself, I think maintaining it is cheaper than changing it and the newer van s aren't as good as the older ones 🤷


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Posted: 30.12.2023  ·  #5
@relay racer , there's a few Vans in the for sale section here might suit 🤷


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Posted: 30.12.2023  ·  #6
I wouldn't like to be looking for a van now. Over the years my tastes have changed. What is current now is behind the times in a few years. Yes there are things I would and could change in the van but I think it has been value for money in the time I've had it. I havnt had any problems on campsites with the tag axle, more with the tolls, wanting to charge as, a lorry. While I can drive it and the missus has the eyesight to direct me when reversing ill keep it. Unless the lottery comes up and it's Concorde here I come


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Posted: 30.12.2023  ·  #7
My van I bought new 18 years ago (19 the day after tomorrow)
It has served us well and ticks all the important boxes. It is fully loaded with all the toys I need. Yes, there have been a few issues over the years but it is generally bombproof.
Without winning the lotto, would I change it, definitely no. In 10 years, what environmental issues will impact the value and usability of a 2024 mh?
My choice at this time is to spend what is necessary to keep my current mh on the road and not go into a hole for 50 or 60 grand for something that may turn out to be a bit of a disappointment and not as robust as the old yoke I currently have.
My 2005 2.8JTD is not afflicted by dodgy airbag modules and other modern electronics just waiting to go pop :-)


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Posted: 31.12.2023  ·  #8
I’ve met quite a few people over the years who have “upgraded” to a newer MH and plenty of those people have admitted they made a mistake and would have been better spending some of the money they used to upgrade enhancing their previous MH.
I think when it makes more sense to change is when you find a layout that is better suited to they way you currently use your MH.
6 berth makes sense when the kids are traveling with you but if there’s now only 2 people why waste space on beds.
Like wise if you have a small sub 6 m MH this is probably great for Irish roads and perhaps a fortnight in France but if you use the van for extended trips then a longer more spacious MH might be a better option.

Tommy to get anything close to what you have you’d probably be looking at an additional 75 to 100k on top of your MH for a new or fairly new model.

That’s a lot of diesel.

Personally I have 20k at least of extras on my my MH which would not add anything to the trade in value but if I got a newer one a specced it the same as my current one that’s another 20k on top of the difference.


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Posted: 31.12.2023  ·  #9
Our mh is just 6.7m but it has a decent cross bed over a decent garage. Unlike others I've seen the width of the climbing in space is quite generous, the bed level is relatively low making for relatively easy climbing in and providing good headroom.
While it's relatively short at 6.7m we've lived in it for up to six months while visiting the sunshine in the winter.
Heading off on Tuesday fortnight again and not planning to be back until summer arrives here, assuming it does 🙄


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That's what I'd be doing too 🤔

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and it's Concorde here I come


That's what I'd be doing too 🤔


Why would you want to holiday in a museum? 🤔☺

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No Sprinter, too small inside


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After spending quite a few quid on the MH this year I was wondering if it is better to change the van every few years or keep for a long time. Over our 40 years of Motorhoming we have had 7 vans. Our first 4 were campers and no 5 was a brand new A Class This brought us up to about year 9. We kept this a couple of years and because of the family growing changed to an overcab that was fully loaded. Kept this until 2003 when we bought the present one new (now 20 years old)
The good points for sticking with this one;
We know the van, thinks have gone wrong but have been fixed. It hasn't cost us a lot in maintenance, just consumables like tyres etc.
We have added the things that we wanted to make it more comfortable, efficient etc.
We havnt lost out in trade in values. Not paying high loan rates I approached a dealer who said he could sell it for 45% of what I paid for it.
Not so good points:
It's getting old. damage to panels etc harder to find/repair.
Things, are going to wear out.
May now start to cost more to keep it on the road.

These are only a few things to think about but it is a no brainier for us. Keep it until it gives up the ghost or we do.


We have changed to a factory fitout, to a ducato panel van.
Wev'e had 2 A classes , ( one for sale) great vans, but with a 2 and a 5 year old grand kids, the panel van is a safer vehicle in the event of an accident, and reduced width is a lot easier to get around rural ireland. Also the bodywork is relatively fixable, and windscreen replacement doesn't need a visit to the credit union!


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Posted: 04.01.2024  ·  #17
What a great question @TommyS , We were in the same position a few years ago our 10 year old van was just starting to show its age it seemed to need some fettling of some type on every trip nothing major but just enough to be an irritation but we loved the layout so were unsure of what to do . In the end we did change luckily were able to come up the years for a relatively small amount but if I had spent the same amount on the old van I could have sorted all the wee niggles and had change.
We love our present van and now have a layout that will suit us going froward for a long time but in retrospect should we have kept our old one and our wedge ? Im still not sure but one thing is for sure we now have our forever van as I won't be in a position to change again unless the lotto comes calling !


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Posted: 04.01.2024  ·  #18
After 1st MH you get an idea of what you like in layout and what you woukd like different in next MH first one was reasonably priced 1999 reg, didn't feel we had to be away all the time.
The next one was 2009, A-class, as we are getting older with mobility problems, we didn't want to climb into a drop down bed.
Then Oct 2019 bought new, with island bed and door between main area (though I preferred toilet/shower better in previous two mhs.
5 months later Covid.
But as this MH bought new we have to keep up warranty for habitation and service annually and first CVRT last year , we didn't have warranty previous older two.
We haven't been out since about Sept and no plans for another while.
So wonder was it worth changing.

Today I had service on my 6 year old Toyota Yaris hybrid, I have only done 10,200 kms, again because of warranty and serviced every year. .


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Posted: 05.01.2024  ·  #19
Hopefully you'll be out and about soon again R


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