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Posted: 30.03.2023  ·  #1
E 10 petrol and diesel is coming into ROI shortly, it's been in NI for a while , did anyone in NI have any problems with older diesel engines and small petrol engines,ie ride on mowers, chainsaws etc


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Posted: 30.03.2023  ·  #2
We’re having problems with the E5, let alone the E10 for aviation use.
Causes vapour lock at altitude plus degrades certain rubber products, particularly fuel floats in bing carburettors.

We’re removing all ethanol now before using it.


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Posted: 30.03.2023  ·  #3
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We’re removing all ethanol now before using it.


Just as matter of interest how do you remove the ethanol? I have a 1991 classic mini and I'm wondering if E10 will have any effect on her.


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Posted: 30.03.2023  ·  #4
Have a Google.

We put 250 litres at a time into a conical tank (old industrial beer fermenter) and add water and agitate it for 24 hours and let settle for a further 12 hrs.
The ethanol attaches itself to the water which can be drained off at the bottom of the conical tank.
The remaining fuel is then passed through a water separator and decanted to Gerry cans. You can achieve over 90% removal of the ethanol.
The alternative is to use AVGAS UL91 but it’s roughly €3.00 a litre. It can be used in cars too.
AVGAS 100LL (blue fuel) is not recommended for the Bombardier Rotax engines we use due to the lead content.


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Posted: 30.03.2023  ·  #5
Was absolute crap in my cb500x. Not noticed too much in the Triumph yet.


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Posted: 31.03.2023  ·  #6
I had to replace the carburetor on the briggs & stratton engine as it destroyed the rubber components 😕

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Posted: 31.03.2023  ·  #7
I use super unleaded as it can still be purchased as E5.


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We’re removing all ethanol now before using it.


Just as matter of interest how do you remove the ethanol? I have a 1991 classic mini and I'm wondering if E10 will have any effect on her.


An RSP by any chance?


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Posted: 31.03.2023  ·  #9
I had to throw out a Strimmer, the guy I took it to told me it was because I had used the new petrol. He said there was no compression in it

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Posted: 31.03.2023  ·  #10
Lawnmowers, strimmers and the like being banjaxed by E10.
Will it be the same story for all those petrol gennies 🤔😏

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Posted: 31.03.2023  ·  #11
For all the fuel these items use it would be better to hedge your bets and use E5 fuel.
Having said that I’ve been using my £79.99 Timberpro Chinese chainsaw all week flat out having forgotten about the E10 issues. Ah well I like to live on the wild side!
I just bought a fresh gallon 2 days ago and will be using it.
Any issues and I’ll report back🤗


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For all the fuel these items use it would be better to hedge your bets and use E5 fuel.
Having said that I’ve been using my £79.99 Timberpro Chinese chainsaw all week flat out having forgotten about the E10 issues. Ah well I like to live on the wild side!
I just bought a fresh gallon 2 days ago and will be using it.
Any issues and I’ll report back🤗


A Timberpro Chinese chainsaw for £79.99 is a bit of an oxymoron :-)

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Lawnmowers, strimmers and the like being banjaxed by E10.
Will it be the same story for all those petrol gennies 🤔😏


Husquarvna and Sthil reckon their engines work OK on E10.


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For all the fuel these items use it would be better to hedge your bets and use E5 fuel.
Having said that I’ve been using my £79.99 Timberpro Chinese chainsaw all week flat out having forgotten about the E10 issues. Ah well I like to live on the wild side!
I just bought a fresh gallon 2 days ago and will be using it.
Any issues and I’ll report back🤗


A Timberpro Chinese chainsaw for £79.99 is a bit of an oxymoron :-)


I don’t know what that big word means but I do know the saw is as good as any Stihl I’ve ever used and I’ve used quite a few 😜


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Which one have you got Brian?

Had a look just now, would like a light 16” one, not sure if it’s the picco chain on it? They have 2 models , CS380 & the CS5200 the difference being the engine cc and weight obviously.

I Have a stihl 038AV for 30 years and is still perfect but it’s heavy for prolonged use.

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I had to replace the carburetor on the briggs & stratton engine as it destroyed the rubber components 😕



Was the replaced carb any better at handling the E10


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Which one have you got Brian?

Had a look just now, would like a light 16” one, not sure if it’s the picco chain on it? They have 2 models , CS380 & the CS5200 the difference being the engine cc and weight obviously.

I Have a stihl 038AV for 30 years and is still perfect but it’s heavy for prolonged use.


Jon, I think it’s the 5200 , big engine but I can handle it. 16” bar and. A screaming banshee!


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I don’t know what that big word means


Self contradicting words.

"Small crowd"

"Awfully good"

On Facebook it's usually followed by a profanity comeback as the moron thinks you've called him a Moron, proving he actually is a moron. Contradicting contradictions with contradictory expression.


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Well I’ll be darned. Every day is a school day and I didn’t much like those!

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It has caused mayhem with my Fathers chainsaws and shimmers etc. I’m concerned about what it could do to my WW2 Jeep. I have seen additives you can add to petrol that is supposed to help protect engines from ethanol. Not sure how effective they are though.

https://amzn.eu/d/cKtWQPb


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Apparently BP is going to continue to prove idle Ultimate which is E5. I certainly wont be putting E10 in any of my classic cars.


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Posted: 02.04.2023  ·  #22
Don't think you can get super (leaded petrol) in the republic any more, you have to buy the additive. So I don't think there will be any four courts selling E5 petrol as well as E10 when the change happens. Sounds like the smuggling over the border business will be booming again.

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Which one have you got Brian?

Had a look just now, would like a light 16” one, not sure if it’s the picco chain on it? They have 2 models , CS380 & the CS5200 the difference being the engine cc and weight obviously.

I Have a stihl 038AV for 30 years and is still perfect but it’s heavy for prolonged use.


Just checked Jon and it’s a CS5800, heavy but powerful
 

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That thing would have power (58cc) on a 16” bar.
My stihl is on a 20”…… I’m going to look at the lighter one Brian, on a 16”, even a 14” but the smaller engine.
Thanks for the pics.


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As an aside Aldi are advertising two chainsaws online at £99.99 each. Unsure if they post to N I tho. 3 yr warranty


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The tree surgeons choice chainsaw, light and can be used one handed Stihl MS200T are making around £230 on eBay 2nd hand. A very versatile saw


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Posted: 02.04.2023  ·  #27
Aye, saw those.
Also the huskavarna new for £185.
Brother has a huskavarna, but the stihl is still the daddy.

No rush, I’ll keep an eye on them.

Also, the Topline stores do a saw here in Ireland, great reports on those ….. but currently out of the 16” option


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Posted: 02.04.2023  ·  #28
Another option, next Sunday Lidl are selling a cordless which would be lightweight for £60. Might be worth a punt if you already had the charger and batteries


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As an aside Aldi are advertising two chainsaws online at £99.99 each. Unsure if they post to N I tho. 3 yr warranty



Will it work with E 10


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Another option, next Sunday Lidl are selling a cordless which would be lightweight for £60. Might be worth a punt if you already had the charger and batteries


Cordless is the way to go, I've most tools moved to battery and invested in DeWalt.
The chainsaw is the next buy, for cutting branches down in the way of the new (large) Motorhome.

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for cutting branches down in the way of the new (large) Motorhome.


Bloody hell, you can’t throw out a juicy morsel of news like that and not tell us more.

Spill them beans.


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Posted: 02.04.2023  ·  #32
Simple reply.

No, far to early for that information. Not on your nelly.


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