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 ·  Posted: 04.12.2022  ·  #1
I have been reading about the most suitable tyres for my MH at the moment it has Michelin Aguilas camping tyres which I found to be ok but I have seen that
Toyo Observe Van
225/75 R16C 121/120R
Gets good reviews and is reputedly a smoother ride.
I have always gone with Michelin because their sidewalls for the camping tyres are designed for long parked up periods.
That said at over €100 a corner I am considering switching.
Any views, suggestions, alternatives?
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 ·  Posted: 04.12.2022  ·  #2
A seasoned motor homer on another site slates the Michelin at every opportunity says they are noisy and other things but is a great fan of the Toyas.
I’ve no experience of either
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 ·  Posted: 04.12.2022  ·  #3
I see its a D rating for fuel and C for wet weather grip. The plus is its a winter tyre with the 3 peaks sign. I've been looking at Michelin Crossclimate Camping, quite a bit more expensive. They are C for fuel and A for wet weather. Both are 72db for noise. The normal Agilis Camping is rated 70db
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 ·  Posted: 04.12.2022  ·  #4
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I see its a D rating for fuel and C for wet weather grip. The plus is its a winter tyre with the 3 peaks sign. I've been looking at Michelin Crossclimate Camping, quite a bit more expensive. They are C for fuel and A for wet weather. Both are 72db for noise. The normal Agilis Camping is rated 70db

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 ·  Posted: 04.12.2022  ·  #6
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I have been reading about the most suitable tyres for my MH at the moment it has Michelin Aguilas camping tyres which I found to be ok but I have seen that
Toyo Observe Van
225/75 R16C 121/120R
Gets good reviews and is reputedly a smoother ride.
I have always gone with Michelin because their sidewalls for the camping tyres are designed for long parked up periods.
That said at over €100 a corner I am considering switching.
Any views, suggestions, alternatives?
Best place to buy in ROI?


Try Casey's Tyres , Tallow , West Waterford. Gives good service and advice. About 140 each for a quality tyre. As a matter of interest he advices staying away from the big name tyres because they're not what they used to be.
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I have been reading about the most suitable tyres for my MH at the moment it has Michelin Aguilas camping tyres which I found to be ok but I have seen that
Toyo Observe Van
225/75 R16C 121/120R
Gets good reviews and is reputedly a smoother ride.
I have always gone with Michelin because their sidewalls for the camping tyres are designed for long parked up periods.
That said at over €100 a corner I am considering switching.
Any views, suggestions, alternatives?
Best place to buy in ROI?


Try Casey's Tyres , Tallow , West Waterford. Gives good service and advice. About 140 each for a quality tyre. As a matter of interest he advices staying away from the big name tyres because they're not what they used to be.

I’d never heard of Toyo until seeing some positive comments. I’ve had my Michelin tyres for just over 5 years and 25000 miles and although the tread is good and the tyres look healthy I’ve heard 5 years is the recommended max life. So looking to change now.
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I’ve had my Michelin tyres for just over 5 years and 25000 miles and although the tread is good and the tyres look healthy I’ve heard 5 years is the recommended max life. So looking to change now.


I had a Contanental CP tyre ( rear ) on the van for 13 years with no problem, tyre guy who took it off in the end said there was nothing wrong with it but I just got worried about the age,no problems from cvrt either
I' also get the 121/120 load rating tyres, slightly better tyre wall strength
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 ·  Posted: 06.12.2022  ·  #10
My current van came with Continentals on it and they are quiet compared to the Michelins, still to early to say how they far long term as they are only on one year and 11,000 miles
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My current van came with Continentals on it and they are quiet compared to the Michelins, still to early to say how they far long term as they are only on one year and 11,000 miles

What type of continentals? I would prefer a decent load rating and winter/all season use.
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 ·  Posted: 05.05.2023  ·  #13
I have been going back forth over choosing new tyres, my Michelin Agillis camping specific tyres were 7 years old and I wanted tyres that had the 3 peaks symbol which is a requirement in some countries/counties in winter.

I looked at Michelin again but they are over €300 per corner and I haven’t been blown away with the existing set. Continental camping versions with the 3 peaks were slightly cheaper and I had heard that they were better than Michelin. Then I heard about Toyo cheaper again and some good feedback.

But in the end I bought 4 Nankang Cross Season AW-8 225/75 R16C 121/120R 10PR, 3PMSF for €500 plus €60 fitting.

Will they be any good? Time will tell.

The sidewalls may prove to be the issue being R16C as opposed to R16CP which the camping specific tyres are.

I bought the tyres off the internet tyreleader and they were delivered in 3 working days via Andora and Germany.
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My way of thinking is, if they are good enough for a deliver/works van, great, the only consideration is the static nature of a motorhome, so if you use it regularly, I don't see a problem, if not stick it on Four stands while parked for long periods, you don't need to take them fully off the ground, just enough to take the side wall bulge away, and still make it difficult for someone to nick it, it might mean an extra 1/2hour prep, when you want to use it, also doesn't reqire the handbrake on all the time, which is a problem sometimes, that said if parked for a long time you should use chocks instead of the handbrake.
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My way of thinking is, if they are good enough for a deliver/works van, great, the only consideration is the static nature of a motorhome, so if you use it regularly, I don't see a problem, if not stick it on Four stands while parked for long periods, you don't need to take them fully off the ground, just enough to take the side wall bulge away, and still make it difficult for someone to nick it, it might mean an extra 1/2hour prep, when you want to use it, also doesn't reqire the handbrake on all the time, which is a problem sometimes, that said if parked for a long time you should use chocks instead of the handbrake.


They way I looked at it, the new tyres are €700 cheaper than the camping specific tyres. They are rated better in wet weather than the Michelin/continental 3 peaks camper tyres and a few decibels quieter. Good load rating.
Time will tell.
I’ll just make a point of moving the van a bit more over the open season.
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 ·  Posted: 05.05.2023  ·  #16
I looked at getting all weather tyres for my van and was told that Irish roads would destroy them. Do you do much driving in Ireland or is just to the ferry?
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I looked at getting all weather tyres for my van and was told that Irish roads would destroy them. Do you do much driving in Ireland or is just to the ferry?

Ferry and back mainly the odd trip here and there but pretty much all in mainland Europe in the winter months.
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 ·  Posted: 05.05.2023  ·  #18
A different angle.
I use CP tyres which are rated to 80psi (5.5bar). When travelling on the smooth roads of Europe I run them at 80psi rear and 65psi front. When at home I drop them to 65psi rear and 45psi front, for the obvious reason, our crap roads.
The lower pressures cost me about 2mpg but saves my fillings 😁.
Fitting ordinary C rated tyres, which don't have the 80psi specification can deny the fuel saving the higher pressure provides and also the added stability afforded to a fully laden vehicle.
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A different angle.
I use CP tyres which are rated to 80psi (5.5bar). When travelling on the smooth roads of Europe I run them at 80psi rear and 65psi front. When at home I drop them to 65psi rear and 45psi front, for the obvious reason, our crap roads.
The lower pressures cost me about 2mpg but saves my fillings 😁.
Fitting ordinary C rated tyres, which don't have the 80psi specification can deny the fuel saving the higher pressure provides and also the added stability afforded to a fully laden vehicle.


I was running 65 front and 55 rear but was advised to go 55 all round. It seemed to make for a steadier drive, less roll. Also btw was advised to stay from big brands as they're putting all their tech into quiet running for electrics.
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Also btw was advised to stay from big brands as they're putting all their tech into quiet running for electrics.


I'd certainly be taking that with a pinch of salt.
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Also btw was advised to stay from big brands as they're putting all their tech into quiet running for electrics.


I'd certainly be taking that with a pinch of salt.


Welllllll he was referring to car tyres by and large. And he has a solid business and has had for 30 years.
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Also btw was advised to stay from big brands as they're putting all their tech into quiet running for electrics.


I'd certainly be taking that with a pinch of salt.


Welllllll he was referring to car tyres by and large. And he has a solid business and has had for 30 years.


I went with the approach that’ll I’ll give the cheaper set a trial at €500 compared to €1200 it seems like a good gamble, safety aside of course.

Big brands have big marketing budgets which have to be paid for somewhere.
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Welllllll he was referring to car tyres by and large. And he has a solid business and has had for 30 years.


Yet the onus is on EV manufacturers to make them louder as people can't hear them. 🤷🤔

Interesting to know if he sells the large brand names?
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I went with the approach that’ll I’ll give the cheaper set a trial at €500 compared to €1200 it seems like a good gamble, safety aside of course.

Big brands have big marketing budgets which have to be paid for somewhere.


Of course. However there's always a but.....

The grip on some of the cheap Chinese tyres is very scarily rubbish. The rubber is too hard for our climate.
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Maybe got six wheels. 🤔
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€1200 🤔

 



The price was for Michelin cross climate @ €300 per corner
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 ·  Posted: 05.05.2023  ·  #28
Just to throw my two pence worth in ....

Got a new work van in 2018 reno master on Michelin agilis

Another colleague got the sister van on continentals,

Van running continetals needed a set all round at 28kms and also a set of brake pads front & back,

The van I had with michelin did 64km on front and 105km on the back, ......brake pads needed on front only at 90km

Different driviny style but big difference in milage for tyres & pads alone.....and he couldnt keep adblu in either for some reason,

Aside from that my current mh I got 3 (tyres were 1 yr on it before i got it) years ago is on antares m&s tyres with 115/113s rating on them and i cannot fault them, Antares is a budget brand but id have no hesitation fitting them again to my mh,

Work van different story as they get hammered all year round ,
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 ·  Posted: 05.05.2023  ·  #29
The Michelin agillis camping had done 27 miles in 7 years. All tyres were still legal especially the back but I wanted the 3 peaks for my winter travels.
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I fit 2x new tyres every year as part of my servicing routine, always put the new ones on the front.
I sell the 2 I take off to farmers for the trailers, nearly always get away spending about £50.
Tyres are always a maximum of 2 years old and always good.
Fit van tyres each time.
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I'm looking to replace for tyres with the 3 peaks, not looking forward to it as I need 6. I think ill wait until its the law on the Continent
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 ·  Posted: 05.05.2023  ·  #32
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I think ill wait until its the law on the Continent


I thought it was in certain mountainous areas in winter
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Yes but at the minute it's ok to carry snow chains and have M&S tyres. Going to be law to have 3 peaks
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Welllllll he was referring to car tyres by and large. And he has a solid business and has had for 30 years.


Yet the onus is on EV manufacturers to make them louder as people can't hear them. 🤷🤔

Interesting to know if he sells the large brand names?


He does. And he'll let you override his advice. He dislikes the Chinese brands because they're crafty in the way they do business . Allegedly.
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Welllllll he was referring to car tyres by and large. And he has a solid business and has had for 30 years.


Yet the onus is on EV manufacturers to make them louder as people can't hear them. 🤷🤔

Interesting to know if he sells the large brand names?


He does. And he'll let you override his advice. He dislikes the Chinese brands because they're crafty in the way they do business . Allegedly.


I've got Hifly 2000 fitted now - came with the MH. I see they're an " economy " tyre, and some of the reviews are a bit scary - the term " blowout " crops up ! :open_mouth:. I've had them looked at and they check out ok.
Like, it's 800 for a new set while these have little or no mileage.
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 ·  Posted: 06.05.2023  ·  #37
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the term " blowout " crops up !


Usually the ones that suffer the "blow outs" forget to include that the tyre was probably under inflated, over inflated or 12 year old and had severe uv damage with cracked side walls .......

Budget tyres have to meet a standard aswell,
keep an eye on them, use common sense and you will be alright is my way of thinking,
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 ·  Posted: 11.05.2023  ·  #38
I fitted Michelin Cross Climate camping 225/70 CP 15" in Dublin last week. Cost 900 euro all told. I had cheap new tyres fitted in Germany but had to change them as the load rating was too low. The bulge in the rear wheel side walls was scary even at max pressure (OK I might have been unknowingly overloaded at the time).

Michelin were the only 15" with 112/110 load rating since I have recently uprated my motorhome from 3500 to 3850kg.

I had a rear wheel blow out in Croatia in my old motorhome on tyres recommended and fitted here (that's a 2 beer story). Had no clue about tyres then. Woke up fast.

I went for all season to cover all bases as there are many and varied rules in Europe. In Germany now you must have 3 peaks if it snows, irrespective if the season. I read some where that some european countries don't allow winter tyres in summer.

In the end my family's safety trumped all cheaper options. I wasn't keen on getting a PhD in tyres to save a few euro, even though they are hard to come by.
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 ·  Posted: 13.05.2023  ·  #39
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the term " blowout " crops up !


Usually the ones that suffer the "blow outs" forget to include that the tyre was probably under inflated, over inflated or 12 year old and had severe uv damage with cracked side walls .......

Budget tyres have to meet a standard aswell,
keep an eye on them, use common sense and you will be alright is my way of thinking,


I just noticed that the sticker on the Ducato reccomends the bar equiv of 79.5 psi. Does anyone know what tyres allow this pressure ?
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 ·  Posted: 13.05.2023  ·  #40
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the term " blowout " crops up !


Usually the ones that suffer the "blow outs" forget to include that the tyre was probably under inflated, over inflated or 12 year old and had severe uv damage with cracked side walls .......

Budget tyres have to meet a standard aswell,
keep an eye on them, use common sense and you will be alright is my way of thinking,


I just noticed that the sticker on the Ducato reccomends the bar equiv of 79.5 psi. Does anyone know what tyres allow this pressure ?


Only tyres marked CP (Camping Pneus)
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