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Posted: 24.08.2022  ·  #1
First time travelling to Spain’ Portugal
self built vw crafter van 2015
Hopefully middle of October to end of November
Other than booking ferries from Roslair to Bilbao return
Everything else will be add hock; no real plan’ other than to head south
I’ve been to Albufeira a few times over the years
other than that no other experience of Portugal
Tom-tom camper go 6; phone laptop for navigation
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Posted: 24.08.2022  ·  #2
As October turns into November lots of places fill up with us northern Europeans heading south for the winter. If you have a bit of a plan it is no harm to try and book a few places ahead of time. I know it's not the way we like to be free and easy as we tour. Last year when we were in Portugal and Spain in January, February and a lot of March, basically until the snowbirds started heading back north to home we often ended up parked on streets after finding three or four campsites or Aires full and no 'room at the Inn'. Both countries are cracking down heavily on unofficial overnight parking at beaches.
Get the paid version of the Campercontact and Park4Night apps, they are well worth the few Euro.
Regarding the phone, many offer unlimited data but chech how much you will be getting while outside Ireland.


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Posted: 24.08.2022  ·  #3
If you plan to use campsites it’s worth getting the ACSI book and discount card. There are quite a few campsites in Spain and Portugal that accept the ACSI discount card. I go around the same time and Find Oct and November much quieter and easier to find availability than Jan and Feb. Camping Albufeira is 10 minutes walk to the old town nice cheap basic site, plenty of commercial Aires in the same area.
I second Baguettes suggestion of Campercontact or park4night in Spain and Portugal.
Toll roads in Portugal you need a tag or to register with your bank card when you arrive into Portugal.


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Posted: 24.08.2022  ·  #4
Nice one amethyst, (cant say I'm not jealous, but unfortunately still have to work and raise kids. Lol!)..we are just back from France and Spain in a self built crafter 5berth. I swear that I got 32mpg from my 2.5tdi 5cyclinder and kept it between 55and 60mph, thats fully loaded and often carrying a full 100litre water tank. I used redex with every fill. You will enjoy the repsol diesel reduction of 25%...we got diesel at 1.45euro per litre, and also you will enjoy the price of groceries in mercadona....its unreal how we are getting shafted by out cost of living. Happy truckin...


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Toll roads in Portugal you need a tag or to register with your bank card when you arrive into Portugal


can this be done befour i leave
ill most likly join these groups
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Posted: 24.08.2022  ·  #6
As you can imagine I am new to this bringing a camper abroad
It will be northern Spain and Portugal
Any particular documents needed
Do I have to have the headlights adjusted
Any stickers I have to put on
Tools equipment
Anything you found handy like thank god I brought that
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Posted: 24.08.2022  ·  #8
I spent last winter in Spain, then bought a house (in Spain) and sold the van. My observations from travelling, in no particular order:

The Spanish are keen on campervans and aires tend to fill up Friday afternoon then empty out on Sunday. If you're staying on aires I'd suggest getting there by midday Friday and not leaving until Sunday, finding a park up on a Saturday can sometimes be tricky.

The middle of Spain is known as "empty Spain", everyone left to find work in the towns and cities. You won't have to drive too far out of Bilbao to find it and Empty Spain can be a depressing place, there's a government ministry set up to try and find solutions. What looks like a nice place to stop on Park4Night can be a village with 3 elderly residents, a mobile supermarket that stops once a fortnight and a bar that closed twenty years ago. Spain suffered with the financial crisis in the late 80's and is full of half built flats and houses. Put those on the edge of a crumbling village with very few residents and it can be a disheartening experience.

Once you find the bits where people live, Spain changes into a vibrant, happening place. There are so many places to see and things to do you'd need a couple of lifetimes to get it all done. The Spanish people are lovely, friendly, helpful. As usual keep your wits about you, especially in the bigger places, there's no more crime than anywhere else though and I feel very safe here.

The country is mountainous and can get it's share of snow, something to be aware of if you're driving around in the winter.

I've been driving in Europe for many years and have never bothered with headlight beam adjust stickers. I've never been stopped or flashed by other drivers at night. You should carry 2 warning triangles and a flouro vest for every occupant of the vehicle. I think there's a law about having a spare wheel or being able to fix a puncture but that's something I'd recommend everyone has. Be aware of the speed limit for your type of van, the Police aren't shy of handing out on the spot fines.

If you're using campsites in the off season an ACSI card might be useful.

There was a thread about hose connectors a couple of weeks ago, bring all the stuff I mentioned on it. A means of filling the van water without being next to a tap is handy too.

If you're using electric hook up get a 2 pin adaptor for your 3 pin lead as mentioned above, you'll probably definitely more than likely use it.

The beach park ups can get full very quickly, which leads to illegal parking, which leads to the Police knocking on the van at 4am with an on the spot fine and being told to move or you'll get another fine. If you fancy the seaside, and who doesn't (me actually, I've no interest whatsover in beaches) talk to other people you meet and get tips from them as to where is full, good, bad.

I've no opinion or advice on Portugal, it does look very nice though.


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Posted: 26.08.2022  ·  #9
If you find yourself in the north of Portugal on the coast near Porto, the coastal municipality's of Vila do Conde and Povoa de Varzim might be worth a stop off. While Porto has taken off as an international tourist destination (thanks to Ryanair), V.d.Conde and Povoa, just a 20 minute drive away, is 100% Portuguese tourism practically and has a bit of a resort feel to it (Algarve for the Portuguese). Campervans park up down past 'the Castle' at the V.d.Conde end, in what looks like an unofficial aire.


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Posted: 26.08.2022  ·  #10
Forte de São João Baptista de Vila do Conde
just checked this out in google maps
if this is the area you are talking about
then its areaies like this i like
I used to have a wooden sail boat; kings ametyst'
I wouldn’t mind a day or two just walking around
Looking at history


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Posted: 26.08.2022  ·  #11
That's the one, the 'Castle'. The parking spot I'm talking about is a few hundred yards down the road here, away from the promenade toward the old town centre. Motorhomes have been parking there for years. I know there is a crackdown on MH parking in recent years but they were still parked there when I last visited (4 weeks ago).

The promenade stretches all the way down to Povoa which makes for good cycling and you'll see a steady stream of walkers who set off in Porto doing the Camino de Santiago. Povoa has a historic town centre too.

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Posted: 28.11.2024  ·  #12
Hope everyone is well.
I never got to Portugal circumstances beyond my control.
This is my second try lwb Renault Master
Hoping to travel off grid
525 watts of solar 500ah of lithium
Dc to dc charger diesel heater induction hob everything you would need to be off grid.
Hoping to head off to Spain Portugal in January
Plan was originally to head along the northern coast of Spain Portugal then south.
This time because I have more time I hope to land in Santander or Bilbao
One way ticket
Ill return when I’ve had enough maybe six weeks or more I’m in no hurry.
head south true Spain towards Valencia then hug the coast from there heading west until I get to northern Portugal.
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Valencia area may not be great after the flooding, you'll have to think about heating the van as it gets quite cold at night from about 4 oc , northern Spain is lovely area

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Posted: 28.11.2024  ·  #14
Arrive in Santander and head south.
Diesel heater fitted connected to diesel tank.
Trying to pick a route away from mountain ranges
I head for Alicante area and give Valencia a miss.
I will most likely have to stop on the way most likely north of Madrid
I’m in no hurry.

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With all that solar and lithium you could light up a small village

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Posted: 28.11.2024  ·  #16
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Valencia area may not be great after the flooding, you'll have to think about heating the van as it gets quite cold at night from about 4 oc , northern Spain is lovely area


Only a small area on the outskirts of Valencia city suffered the devastating flooding. For example camping Devesa Gardens which is just 15km south of the city was unaffected, approach roads undamaged and continues to operate as normal.

We passed through the city just 3 days after the flooding as a section of the AP7 ring motorway had collapsed and was closed.
Incredibly, a new motorway loop around the collapsed sections was built and opened within 3 weeks. Compare that to what would happen in similar circumstances here.

So, no need to avoid Valencia city / region or using the reopened main arterial motorway South, that passes close by.


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Posted: 28.11.2024  ·  #17
I’ve just booked a one way to Santander leaving the 3/1/25
30hr passage Arrive 5/1/25 07.00
I put as much solar and lithium as posable in all the vans I’ve built so far
Better to be looking at it than looking for it long term the cost of materials and installation make sense.
Other than a diesel heater everything else is electric
Depending on the weather conditions I can stop off anyplace
I’m heading south for the weather


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Posted: 28.11.2024  ·  #18
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You should fit a few metered sockets to your van and sell leccy to other less fortunate campers nearby


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Northern Spain can be very cold in winter and there is no route to avoid the mountains if heading South.
In recent times we had snow one year and bitter cold ( below -6° by night and -1° by day) another year, so be prepared to run the heating 24/7.
For us it was a combination of gas when parked and running the supplementary heating in the habitation area, Rapido call it 'chauffage en route' from the engine when driving.

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Posted: 07.12.2024  ·  #20
Booked a return flexy ticket for the 13th of march
front and back pads
Four new tires and I serviced the van
changed the engine oil while I was under there, I changed the oil in the gearbox
fuel and air filter looked as if they had never been done
changed the antifreeze
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a few alterations to the garage area to be able to store and charge an e-bike
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checked with insurance they informed me I do not need a green card
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Posted: 07.12.2024  ·  #21
Did you change the break fluid with the brakes, and maybe lubricate the gear change linkage, and check the PAS in the steering, just a thought you've covered everything else , and maybe an extra storage rack for wine to lubricate the driver 😁

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Posted: 07.12.2024  ·  #22
I'll be changing the gearbox oil shortly and will be added Liqui Moly
It's supposed to be great stuff for hardworking gearboxes and differentials


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Posted: 08.12.2024  ·  #23
Since you have serviced and changed everything, would you think of swooping out the Driver 🤔, I'm sure I can source a reliable replacement, you could always insist he wears a body cam so as you wouldn't miss out on any of the trip. 😇😋😁


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Northern Spain can be very cold in winter and there is no route to avoid the mountains if heading South.
In recent times we had snow one year and bitter cold ( below -6° by night and -1° by day) another year, so be prepared to run the heating 24/7.
For us it was a combination of gas when parked and running the supplementary heating in the habitation area, Rapido call it 'chauffage en route' from the engine when driving.


Would ca and cl roads be decent enough in Spain im planning a route atm and a 2 hour drive on a Cl road is one of them, it’s got a lot of bends also Aguilar de campo to potes,


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Northern Spain can be very cold in winter and there is no route to avoid the mountains if heading South.
In recent times we had snow one year and bitter cold ( below -6° by night and -1° by day) another year, so be prepared to run the heating 24/7.
For us it was a combination of gas when parked and running the supplementary heating in the habitation area, Rapido call it 'chauffage en route' from the engine when driving.


Would ca and cl roads be decent enough in Spain im planning a route atm and a 2 hour drive on a Cl road is one of them, it’s got a lot of bends also Aguilar de campo to potes,



CL and CA roads in Spain, while being very scenic, are generally mountainous, narrow and twisty. They would be great fun on something like a BMW R12 Motorbike but not so much in a Ducato 2300 Motorhome,
My preference in the winter would be to travel on the A-67, which the snowploughs would keep clear if necessary.


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Northern Spain can be very cold in winter and there is no route to avoid the mountains if heading South.
In recent times we had snow one year and bitter cold ( below -6° by night and -1° by day) another year, so be prepared to run the heating 24/7.
For us it was a combination of gas when parked and running the supplementary heating in the habitation area, Rapido call it 'chauffage en route' from the engine when driving.


Would ca and cl roads be decent enough in Spain im planning a route atm and a 2 hour drive on a Cl road is one of them, it’s got a lot of bends also Aguilar de campo to potes,



CL and CA roads in Spain, while being very scenic, are generally mountainous, narrow and twisty. They would be great fun on something like a BMW R12 Motorbike but not so much in a Ducato 2300 Motorhome,
My preference in the winter would be to travel on the A-67, which the snowploughs would keep clear if necessary.

Ok -forgot to say it will be easter time


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I'll be changing the gearbox oil shortly and will be added Liqui Moly
It's supposed to be great stuff for hardworking gearboxes and differentials


Place it in hot water before you try squeezing it in


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We are heading 14th jan to santander, heading south. Done it jan this year and as said, it's baltic at night


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We are heading 14th jan to santander, heading south. Done it jan this year and as said, it's baltic at night


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Posted: 16.12.2024  ·  #30
off the boat in bilboe at seven
so i might as well try and get to tarragona in one go

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off the boat in bilboe at seven
so i might as well try and get to tarragona in one go

That’s a lot of miles I’m in tarragona now and I’m doing 2 stops before Bilbao and then staying in Bilbao before we sail.


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Posted: 18.12.2024  ·  #32
The only part of my travel plan that’s cast in stone
Cork to Rosslare
Rosslare to bilbao
Everything else is on a hope and a prayer
My first thoughts were to drive to Logrono or Zaragoza then head towards either Barcelona
Or Torredembarra stay in a please for a day maybe two or a week
Just go with the flow
Ive a lot of places marked on google maps where I might like to viset
Mostly along the coast of Spain and Portugal
I’m hoping I will have plenty of time along the way to plan my next stop

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Posted: 18.12.2024  ·  #33
Valencia is still wrecked if you’re passing that way, they put another temporary road along were the main through road used to be but it’s definitely back passible again for anything under 7.5 t

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Posted: 19.12.2024  ·  #34
Don't be in too much of a rush, Bilboa and Logrona are worth a bit of time to visit, in their own right.

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Don't be in too much of a rush, Bilboa and Logrona are worth a bit of time to visit, in their own right.


The Old Town in Bilbao is a must

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Posted: 22.12.2024  ·  #36
If the weather is warm i.e. 12 to 15 degrees
Then I may spend a little time sight seeing
A castle, monastery, church, anything really
I’m not in any hurry


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Posted: 27.12.2024  ·  #37
I’m off the boat on the 8th jan, then heading to Barcelona to collect the other car as we flew home and are driving back, then home to Tarragona area.

By this time next year I hope to have a couple of parking areas set up which is half way between Valencia and Barcelona in the Ebro valley and will be available to all craicers


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Posted: 27.01.2025  ·  #38
I’m heading to Spain and Portugal in April. Hoping to do northern Spain across to Portugal and then down the coast! Would love some tips/must see locations :)


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Posted: 27.01.2025  ·  #39
Have a look at the Picos de Europa, some nice scenery


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