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Posted: 09.02.2022  ·  #1
I'm looking at used motorhomes and I see that motorhomes with automatic transmission are common enough in Germany. They seem to cost a bit extra over their manual counterparts but it is difficult to compare like for like.

I'm wondering if it would be worth paying extra for the automatic gearbox in say a motorhome less than five years old. I have driven automatic cars and I have found them very easy to drive.

Do automatic gearboxes give more trouble and are they more expensive to repair?


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I wouldn't drive anything else other than auto's. But most in this Country hate them. Its whatever you want/need that'll be right for you.

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Been driving automatic cars for years but the camper is manual. Gearboxes are generally reliable, manual or auto, you need to be unlucky to have problems for the most part but an auto will probably cost more to put right.

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The gearboxes in commercial vehicles and current generation 'automatic' cars are not an automatic box in the old sence. They are what's called automated manual in that the clutch, throttle settings and gear change are all operated by servos which are run by an electric control unit.
Vehicles with automated manual boxes can be more economical than a manual because engine revs and gear selection is always optimised by the ECU

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I'm absolutely love the 9 speed ZF Auto box in our Motorhome....Never had an automatic before in either car or van but would only consider an Auto from now on in a Motorhome.

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Posted: 09.02.2022  ·  #6
Hi I drive automatic trucks with my job in the fire service but jump back into a manual car to drive home and my motorhome is manual and I find no difference between the 2 really, I’d be more concerned with getting a layout that suits everything else in my opinion is secondary, if you find a layout that best suits your need don’t let anything else sway that opinion

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The gearboxes in commercial vehicles and current generation 'automatic' cars are not an automatic box in the old sence. They are what's called automated manual in that the clutch, throttle settings and gear change are all operated by servos which are run by an electric control unit.
Vehicles with automated manual boxes can be more economical than a manual because engine revs and gear selection is always optimised by the ECU


My brand new Crafter has an 8 speed auto running through a torque converter.

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Thanks guys for your replies. It's all great information for me to consider. I'm definitely going to look at automatics more seriously now even though there is a cost factor involved.

The one thing I've noticed is that the motorhomes with automatic transmission generally have other extras included such as aircon in living area, awning, some with sat dish etc.

Those I presume will all add to paying more in VRT.

Initially, I was thinking of just buying a basic enough used model, importing it, paying VRT on that and then getting extras fitted. However it might work out cheaper with a lot less hassle if the MH already has what I want!

Having read your posts, auto looks the way for me to go.

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Best of luck with what you get and send a few pictures of it when you do happy hunting 😁😁👍

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I went from manual motorhomes to an automatic on the transit base and its a real pleasure to drive especially in traffic.

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Quote by baguette

The gearboxes in commercial vehicles and current generation 'automatic' cars are not an automatic box in the old sence. They are what's called automated manual in that the clutch, throttle settings and gear change are all operated by servos which are run by an electric control unit.
Vehicles with automated manual boxes can be more economical than a manual because engine revs and gear selection is always optimised by the ECU


This was true until a few years ago, good examples were Renault and Fiat automatic gearboxes.
The new generations of eight and nine-speed transmissions are much more similar to those with torque converters typically used in American cars.
Enriched by electronics that allow optimized management of operation.

In a motorhome, however, I personally prefer the manual gearbox, it is different to drive on normal roads rather than in some narrow Norwegian or Alpine pass with many uphill hairpin bends.

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Posted: 10.02.2022  ·  #13
If I was changing vans I would have automatic high on my list. Just think as we get older it would make driving easier as all we have to concentrate on is steering and stop and go trouble is im not changing so have to make do with manual


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If I was changing vans I would have automatic high on my list. Just think as we get older it would make driving easier as all we have to concentrate on is steering and stop and go trouble is im not changing so have to make do with manual


I must have been old before my time, I bought my first automatic aged 30

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I have a LHD, A Class on Sprinter 318 5 speed automatic. The Auto,makes it so easy and comfortable to drive, particularly, on roundabouts, junctions, heavy slow traffic, hill starting, its a major advantage, not having to do anything with clutch, gear change and handbrake, and then when for the open road you add cruise control ( which for me is must have) it's the only way to go.

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Posted: 11.02.2022  ·  #16
I love automatics but had problems with 2 E Class Mercs. The first one used to stick in 5 gear and wouldnt come out of it no matter what you tried. Complained to Mercedes and they eventually swapped for another E Class. After 2 years the second one stuck in 2nd gear and wouldnt come out of it. The car was just out of warranty and I had to fix it myself as Mercedes wouldnt recognise it as a problem. So went and bought a Skoda and it hasnt coughed in the 8 years of ownership.

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A turn off for the new Fiat 8/9 speed (can't remember if it's 8 or 9 gears) is that it's 3k to 4k extra over the manual. I think this is a normal traditional auto over the robotised manual that was the Ducato 6 speed "auto" or the VAG two 3 speed gearboxes mashed together to form the DSG.

There's an auto Ducato in the garage here. The auto is a godsend when trying to maneuver in traffic in a strange town on hols. You are looking for road signs, watching traffic and the temperatures are rising. Thinking of what gear you need is not something else you have to worry about.

Most Ducatos with automatic come with Traction Plus (a traction control for extra slippy conditions to get you moving that turns off over 15/20kph), hill hold, decent control. Also, having messed with leaving it in auto and doing the same journey in manual (I selecting the gears) there's no difference in fuel economy.

I think it's poor value and probably wouldn't order a 'van with an auto, I'd rather get a bigger stove under the bonnet with the cost.


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Posted: 12.02.2022  ·  #18
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A turn off for the new Fiat 8/9 speed (can't remember if it's 8 or 9 gears) is that it's 3k to 4k extra over the manual.


The funny thing is a manual is 4k extra for a volvo or scania tractor unit, Any lad doing heavy haulage will opt for manual as the driver has control over gear change

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Posted: 13.02.2022  ·  #19
Auto every time for me, all 4 of our motorhomes, being American, were of course, auto. So easy in traffic or on site.


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