If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

The Rambler

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender:
Location: Galway
Age: 50
Posts: 2346
Registered: 07 / 2017
My Motorhome:
Base Vehicle: Vauxhall Movano 2.5 CDTI

Subject:

If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 14.04.2021 · #1

Looking at the north end of the Ballyconeely peninsula, I can follow Google street view on to the shores of Mannin Beg. This is a popular surfing spot.

https://earth.app.goo.gl/MfH2Wn

It requires a gate to be opened and a drive through bog and dunes. Now this looks a lot like commonage to me. Yet the Google street car can go there and I have always taken that to mean that a right of way exists. There are similar street views trails on Omey Island.

Having been abruptly booted off commonage, along with 20 other vans last year on the southern end of the peninsula by the golf course, I am very weary about knowing where is ok to park and where is not. Mind you, the street car did not traverse that section of commonage.

Any thoughts ?

Flipperdipper

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender:
Location: WEXFORD
Age: 73
Posts: 1673
Registered: 12 / 2012
My Motorhome: HOBBY 600
Base Vehicle: Fiat Ducato 2.8

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 14.04.2021 · #2

Was it the Google street car or the Google man with the backpack camera that traversed the route? You can have a right of way but not a right to drive. Maybe someone else knows better.

Gavster

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender:
Location: Newry, Co Down
Age: 45
Posts: 1001
Registered: 11 / 2016
My Motorhome: LMC Liberty 630R (LHD)
Base Vehicle: Fiat Ducato 2.5 TD

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 14.04.2021 · #3

Yeah they walk a lot of off road areas with a back pack. Might be able to see a shadow and figure out which one it is.

The Rambler

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender:
Location: Galway
Age: 50
Posts: 2346
Registered: 07 / 2017
My Motorhome:
Base Vehicle: Vauxhall Movano 2.5 CDTI

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 14.04.2021 · #4

Backpack hmmm. Never thought about that. Still, the tyre trails exist and the camera follows them. Im not sure what to infer from that.??

RTV

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender: n/a
Location: Cork
Age: 41
Posts: 796
Registered: 08 / 2017
My Motorhome: Rollerteam Auto Roller
Base Vehicle: Fiat Ducato 2.0 JTD

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 14.04.2021 · #5

Quote by Flipperdipper

Was it the Google street car or the Google man with the backpack camera that traversed the route? You can have a right of way but not a right to drive. Maybe someone else knows better.

I was going to say that exactly. Not necessarily they go on the car to those spots, I've seen your man on a push bike as well.

Galldar

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender: n/a
Location: Meath
Age: 103
Posts: 732
Registered: 07 / 2019
My Motorhome: Paddy the Pilote Galaxy 78MX
Base Vehicle: Citroen 2.5TD

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 14.04.2021 · #6

Google guy on Keem beach.

Someone (who will remain nameless so as not to embarass her

) thought it was someone selling Heineken, wishful thinking!

Liked by: Albert the Talbot, sprinter, The Rambler

hymer524

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender:
Location: Kilkenny / Kerry / Kilkenny
Posts: 1376
Registered: 09 / 2011
My Motorhome: Hymer 524
Base Vehicle: Fiat Ducato 2.8

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 14.04.2021 · #7

Quote by The Rambler

Yes it is commonage, and currently there is no right of way registered with the land office.

The Rambler

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender:
Location: Galway
Age: 50
Posts: 2346
Registered: 07 / 2017
My Motorhome:
Base Vehicle: Vauxhall Movano 2.5 CDTI

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 14.04.2021 · #8

Interesting. What site/ viewer are you using to see that Hymer?

hymer524

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender:
Location: Kilkenny / Kerry / Kilkenny
Posts: 1376
Registered: 09 / 2011
My Motorhome: Hymer 524
Base Vehicle: Fiat Ducato 2.8

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 15.04.2021 · #9

Quote by The Rambler

Having been abruptly booted off commonage, along with 20 other vans last year on the southern end of the peninsula by the golf course, I am very weary about knowing where is ok to park and where is not. Mind you, the street car did not traverse that section of commonage.

Any thoughts ?

I had a good look around on Google Earth for that location, and i noticed that there was no vehicles of any sort seen in street view. { I would have thought that if cars/vans etc were allowed one would see them.}
..
I see that on the App that there are two Poi's with reviews saying that they drove across the commonage, and the Poi's are marked on the commonage Private land and not the public road.!!
For Attention of Admin.. Maybe the Two Poi's in question should be removed as they are located on private land. And over use of these could cause conflict with the Land owners... Just my opinion.

I also found this about land access.
..

The Rambler

Eat's Sleep's craic

Gender:
Location: Galway
Age: 50
Posts: 2346
Registered: 07 / 2017
My Motorhome:
Base Vehicle: Vauxhall Movano 2.5 CDTI

Subject:

Re: If the Google street car can go there, so can I. Can’t I?

· Posted: 15.04.2021 · #10

Well your opinion is duly noted hymer.

That whole episode of being ejected from that site last year was quite a learning experience for me. And opinions vary greatly between different folk. We parked up the first night as we saw several vans parked. There were different types. Some VWs surfer types, some big rigged A-Class, some run of the mill standard MH. There was a vintage Hymer with full awnings, Jeep, trailer and sail boat. But twice blokes showed up waving a stick and telling us to move on. Then the Gardai showed up and advised everyone to move on. That Hymer guy had been coming to this spot for 25 years and had never been moved on, and said to me he was going nowhere.

The funny thing is that earlier that morning, we spoke to a local who was training his horse on the beach. He asked where we were parked. I pointed out our spot. He advised that if anyone comes around telling us to move, that we should ignore them and just tell them we have permission to be there. He said they only do that to Irish reg and leave the foreigners alone. ‘That’s the kind of bullxxxx you are dealing with’, his words.

There was much discussion with all the other MH owners when the Gardai left. Many were saying they were not moving on and had a couple of glasses of wine taken. Word was that they Gardai were coming back. We decided to leave so I don’t know how it ended. We moved up to the other side, the north end of the golf course by False bay. There were probably in excess of about 200 vehicles camped up on that piece of land! No problems there. And the locals in that part of the peninsula were grand.

Registered users in this topic