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Posted: 18.03.2021  ·  #1
I hope you fine folks could advise/assist!

We are due to pick up our newly purchased campervan on the 1st April and are very excited at the prospect of heading away for a night or two wild camping if restrictions ease to County travel after Easter. We are thinking wild camping for our first outing as I imagine the limited number of official campsites in County Dublin may be booked out/not yet open (we have some campsites reserved later in the summer). We have never owned a camper before but have hired one on three separate occasions previously (twice in Ireland and once in France).

We are living in a fairly urban area in Dublin with a steep enough driveway so filling the freshwater tank and emptying the grey water tank could be a bit of an issue for us. I am however considering purchasing a Fiamma Roll Tank so that we can drain the grey water into it and then pour into our sewage manhole at the rear of the house). I trust this would be a safe way to dispose of grey water?

We spent two weeks in France in 2019 in a hired camper and availed of numerus Aires De Service to fill our freshwater tank and to empty the grey, however I am finding it difficult to find similar sites in Ireland.

Do any of you know of places in County Dublin and around Ireland in general to fill fresh water tanks and empty the grey water safely and legally? I don't want to let grey water drain anywhere i'm not supposed to!

We plan to do a mixture of wild camping and campsites in future so the above won't be as much of an issue, just would like to know my options before embarking on our maiden voyage wild camping!

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Posted: 18.03.2021  ·  #2
Firstly Hi and welcome,
Download the Motorhomeparking App Paid version It will give you all the sites in Ireland you can also get a list of places you can get water ( refill.ie)

But there is no Aire,s in Dublin and they are few and far between around Ireland. but there are plenty of places to stop all on the App.
You can empty your Black and grey water at home, the roll away is a good idea,and maybe a second cassette, as to filling, Is it too far for a long hose to reach out to the road,? it should be level enough to fill and to empty your grey water into the roll tank, Just be careful not to spill and give the neighbors some to gripe about. a watering can to fill your tank with, is also a good investment.
If you can travel out of Dublin you could try the Upper carpark in Glendalough ( probably during the week, weekends could be Jammers ) you pay for 24 hour parking. There is an Private Aire at Derrybawn Farm which may be open, on the road to Glenmalure ( 52.992094, -6.322367 ) from Laragh, and you can also stay in the car park of the Glenmalure Lodge. ( don't burn the brakes pads off going down the hill, maybe take the long way around trough Rathdrum.)

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Posted: 18.03.2021  ·  #3
Quote by sprinter

Firstly Hi and welcome,
Download the Motorhomeparking App Paid version It will give you all the sites in Ireland you can also get a list of places you can get water ( refill.ie)

But there is no Aire,s in Dublin and they are few and far between around Ireland. but there are plenty of places to stop all on the App.
You can empty your Black and grey water at home, the roll away is a good idea,and maybe a second cassette, as to filling, Is it too far for a long hose to reach out to the road,? it should be level enough to fill and to empty your grey water into the roll tank, Just be careful not to spill and give the neighbors some to gripe about. a watering can to fill your tank with, is also a good investment.
If you can travel out of Dublin you could try the Upper carpark in Glendalough ( probably during the week, weekends could be Jammers ) you pay for 24 hour parking. There is an Private Aire at Derrybawn Farm which may be open, on the road to Glenmalure ( 52.992094, -6.322367 ) from Laragh, and you can also stay in the car park of the Glenmalure Lodge. ( don't burn the brakes pads off going down the hill, maybe take the long way around trough Rathdrum.)


Many thanks for your detailed reply! I have downloaded that App but will upgrade my access to the paid subscription so I have access to all features. If we head to Wicklow when restrictions ease i'll be sure to check out the locations you mentioned :)

It's a long distance from the tap where the hose is connected (rear of house) to where I could fill the camper on the level but using a watering can could work. I should be able to manage the grey water too by using buckets/ roll tank to ferry the water to the drain at the back of the house.

It's such a shame that Ireland is so backwards as regards aires compared to mainland Europe, hopefully it's something that can be improved upon over the coming years.

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Posted: 18.03.2021  ·  #4
Could you not use a roadside drain on your street to empty the grey water? Emptying into a roll tank sounds like a lot of bother.

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Posted: 18.03.2021  ·  #5
For filling the fresh water tank I have been using a watering can. Haven't found a tap yet that it doesn't fit. We now carry 2 to fill faster.

To empty grey ask in a garage forecourt when filling with diesel can you drive over their car wash and empty the grey. Haven't been refused yet.


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Could you not use a roadside drain on your street to empty the grey water? Emptying into a roll tank sounds like a lot of bother.


I had initially thought that too but I think it's frowned upon as that would drain straight into the storm water. From reading various things online people state grey water (due to chemicals like washing up liquids etc) should be drained into the foul water system.


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This is a subject that gets lots of attention on various forums. I believe you are correct in saying that grey should not be put down rain water drains, however given the potential for rubber particles, diesel, petrol, oil, and other chemicals to run off road surfaces, I reckon the occasional dump of fat and food particle free grey water with some soap or washing up liquid is not going to make a substantial difference. Perception by the public is an issue in my view. If you were to drop grey water into your street gully, the average member of the public is ignorant of the waste content and likely to think it is black waste too. There is also the potential smell of grey water to be factored in. I know of a lay-by on my way home were, if I haven’t been able to drop at the location I have stayed at, I can be sure of dropping the grey into a rough grass verge. Needless to say I do it when the lay-by is empty and not where the occasional cars park. If needed I have an extension waste hose that stretches from my van to my house waste drain. If I am parked on site for a few days, then each time I take the toilet cassette to empty, I top it up with grey and perhaps make a couple of runs to drain the tank. I also actively reduce the amount of water going into the tank by doing washing up in a basin and chucking the water into a hedge, if available.

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I suppose I never think too much about the chemicals as it is only a squeeze of detergent and wouldn’t consider any organic matter, i.e. small amounts of food waste and grease to be problematic, but I guess you have a point. I understand how it might look to the layman, if someone was emptying grey waste. It could be sewage as far as he is concerned.

What about all those cars being washed on driveways, and patio cleaners etc. ?


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I suppose I never think too much about the chemicals as it is only a squeeze of detergent and wouldn’t consider any organic matter, i.e. small amounts of food waste and grease to be problematic, but I guess you have a point. I understand how it might look to the layman, if someone was emptying grey waste. It could be sewage as far as he is concerned.

What about all those cars being washed on driveways, and patio cleaners etc. ?


To be fair I hadn't really considered the chemicals either as there would be minimal amounts of washing up liquid used but there seems to be some strong opinions on the matter online and i'm trying to do 'the right thing'! :)

I agree, washing patios and cars is probably far more polluting than a bit of fairy liquid from a camper but it's so normal and routine that people don't even register it as polluting/harmful to the environment.


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Posted: 19.03.2021  ·  #10
I love a good grey waste thread :lol:

Seriously though....Its as everyone as said....Mainly organic with a bit of washing up liquid....Its not like we are carrying contaminated nuclear waste around with us. I drain mine on my driveway and flows off into a drain on my property. If i'm away for long periods I use the facilities of campsites or Aires......I also dont mind saying I've drained my grey waste into grass when wild camping.


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In one of the few times I’ve been out in the van I was at Ardglass aire and this guy probably also a beginner like me drove over the grid as he he thought to empty grey but hadn’t drove over far enough, his wife was directing him further forward but he didn’t really listen to her. So he open the bung and the hole grey waste flowed across the car park around me and 3 other vans tyres and walking space, I still laugh thinking of his wife trying to usher him forward . And him ignoring her

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In one of the few times I’ve been out in the van I was at Ardglass aire and this guy probably also a beginner like me drove over the grid as he he thought to empty grey but hadn’t drove over far enough, his wife was directing him further forward but he didn’t really listen to her. So he open the bung and the hole grey waste flowed across the car park around me and 3 other vans tyres and walking space, I still laugh thinking of his wife trying to usher him forward . And him ignoring her


I bet he blamed her too.


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i dont think he knew he done anything wrong , he just looked at all the water on the ground and looked across the carpark at the flow making its way towards other peoples vans ,reversed and flew out the gate,i swear to god everytime i think of that moment i still laugh

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I remember seeing years ago a bag that you filled with straw or grass or something and empied your grey water onto grass through it

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As said, considering all the nasty stuff (oil, rubber, brake dust, dog sh1te etc etc) that hets washed down storm drains our grey water with a drop of fairy liquid is probably a cleansing agent for the drain in comparison.
But perception is everything.

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As has been said in my opinion grey water if got rid of discretely will harm nobody.
If wild camping I will have no problem letting my grey waste out onto grass,after all it is water with ferry liquid,shampoo,and tooth paste.
If emptied arrogantly it will be the perception that dirt is being left behind.

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Posted: 19.03.2021  ·  #17
I dump my grey water into the flower beds every time I get home, hven't killed anything yet,

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I remember years ago we were away in the van and a group of friends met up with us, one of whom was pregnant, she went into van for
a pee and about 5 minutes after she came out I opened the grey waste pipe and said to everyone look at the colour of her pee what sort of baby is she having, I still have the scars, 😂

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