Howth Harbour

I suppose it depends on what the charge will be, personally I don't mind paying if I am getting something in return? fresh Water/Waste disposal. I think if it is more than €5 a day it will put people off which of course means the business's will lose money.

What do others think?

Dissapointed to read this, there are many issues that you do not understand, I do hope sometime we get a chance to meet so I can help you understand better, years ago I had difficulty in getting to grips with all that happens and more importantly why. The motorhomes association is the only way to make things really happen. Believe me!
I'll buy you a beer and we will talk, I like your enthusiasm, reminds me of me some years ago, but there a protocol or it goes nowhere, been at this since 1999, with some sucess in spite of the odds . Unfortunate the dreaded work gets in the way a bit.

I was in the middle of posting a reply to Willie and then thought " why bother" so I deleted it.

The motorhome association will contine to carry on in the same manor they have up until now...
All the best to them....

Back to the Howth topic I think...

Pay & Display Charge will be for the whole harbour area. It will be for All vehicles.
Motorhomes, cars, vans, buses & lorries. The buzz at the weekends is fantastic
A complete disaster for everyone.
Will update topic when my local politician gives feedback.

we are going to stay here on sat 12th if anyone else there come over and say hello :coolgun:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Dennis 21 again

lets hope the local businesses win this one but trying to beat the numnuts in the banana republic of dail eireann could be hard

13 February 2013 Update! Only Howth Harbour will have parking fees imposed.
Some very disappointing news on www.tommybroughan.com
Looks like the idea of the Gathering 2013 Tourism Drive has been lost.
I have written to both Minister for Tourism & Agriculture to register my disappointment this negative idea will do to tourism in general in Howth Harbour.
Will update on any feedback !

Ally, no word yet of charges to be imposed. On a recent visit we noticed enhanced parking bays and pedestrian walkways. Looks like well on the way for parking fees.. Only items missing are the Pay & Display Paying Machines.
Greystones here we come

Hi John,
Greystones Harbour is much smaller than Howth. Room maybe for 6 vans parked beside Harbour Masters Office. Have only seen 2/3 vans at a time there myself. Nice pub close bye. I have parked up overnight with no problems and have gone for walks along cliff face to Bray with no problems
Dart station 5 minutes walk away. .

I wish to address the comments written by your contributors mark and bob. This reply is not the view of the motorhome association but my personal observation. Firstly the chair of the motorhome association ( my wife ) has devoted many years of her hard work and time to lobbying on behalf of motorhome owners both individual and club members with great success. Mark was asked to attend I such meeting and from what I understand stamped his foot like a 4year old because he didn't get what he wanted bob and I discussed motorhome matters at work and I am surprised at what he wrote in his post. I will not embarrass him by posting what he said to me but he can ring me and I will remind him personally. The MCCNI were invited to join the M A but internal wrangling in their club means indecision. I know I used to be a member ah well their loss. Now to get to the important stuff the association had a meeting in the Dail yesterday with THE TOURISM MINISTER. Yes that's right the tourism minister along with the assistant tourist secretary to address the lack of facilities the recognition of our form of tourism and our representation on the camping and caravan council who in the north and south seem to be the blockage to further progress. Now on that subject. Port rush 21serviced sites Donaghadee Aire in place and by laws re written parking address at a further meeting last week car parks in strangford identified for parking to be made legal and a notice of motion into council for this to happen. Other councils working on aires /parking etc etc . Just one other thing the cost for these meetings I finance this myself not the clubs the government. In conclusion mark and bob whose motor homes are barely run in should consider people's feelings before assassinating hard workink lobbyists who work on your behalf and consider the amount of money time and grief they have devoted on your behalf Chris and I do not even have a motorhome at present but this has not stopped her doing the job the associatin tasked her to do. One final thought you get nothing stamping your foot like a child. It takes hard work convincing the right people and pressure and follow up to change a mindset not arrant on a web site. I think an apology and retraction are in order

bq125rex, as you seem to be involved in the Motorhome Association there is one thing which I personally feel would be of benefit to all Motorhomers whether or not thier motorhome is "run in", let us know who the Motorhome Association is and exactly what you are doing on behalf of everyone. This way people may not be as critical of you and others would be able to possibly support you in your various quests in whichever part of the country they live in. Some people may know the association through various clubs etc. but I for one dont join clubs and have not been able to find out anything about you or what you stand for and what you are doing to improve the profile of motorhoming as both a recreational hobby and the tourist potential it can offer the country as a whole. While it is excellent that you have provided the various bodies with the information necessary to make the decission to open the aires to date and ammend the by-laws, instead of being quiet about it, shout it from the roof tops, get the press involved and promote the association and the good work it is doing and then others will listen to you more intently after all all politicians love to be involvled in positive press.

(See my second post to this thread.)

I think you are right, but all depends on the charge, €5 per night for facilities like water and toilet emptying would be fine. But if they go over that charge it may cause problems.

Nor me! What you suggest would be perfect.

Reference posts from bq125rex (Brian) and Mark.

I know a little of went on at the meeting in question, it was I who put forward Mark and Bob as representatives of Motorhomecraic.

Without getting into what was said or what wasn't said, I would like to make this point.

The Motorhome Association do fantastic work, no one has any doubt about that. But the frustration amongst Motorhomers is created by their lack of understanding of who/what the Motorhome Association are. A lot of Motorhomers would like to help in any way they can and feel frustrated that they cannot.

I will go a little way to maybe explain why this is.

The Motorhome Association from what I can see/hear, yes I am in contact with them, have very little choice but to keep things to themselves until they are finalised and agreed by all parties, it is the nature of the way things are done. The MA do not purposely hide any details from Motorhomer's but are unable to make the details public.

I don't think anyone would disagree what the MA have been doing has been to the benefit of Motorhomers throughout Ireland North & South and all Motorhomers should be grateful with the work that has been going on behind the scenes, I know I am.

I hope that bq125rex(Brian) comes back on here, or indeed Christine or anyone to do with the MA and keeps us informed on what they can. I get emails from the MA but I do not have permission to share, so will not do that.

If we all work together on this and don't be so quick to judge on either side perhaps we could move things forward.

Brian: Motorhomers are here to help with anything the MA needs.

Well said Ally

No they are not more secret than the masons and anyone who uses any of the recently acquired aires or parking facilities in the province has the chair and members to thank. If you wish to find out and are in any club in ireland your chair or pro officer will have the details unless you are in the MCCNI who are far too important to bother with people who give up their spare time on all of your behalf. By the way the motorhome association have gained access to the tourism minister who set up a motorhome forum which was attended by 48interested parties in a conference at the Stormont hotel. NITB are now rolling out motorhome tourism around the province. Yesterday we attended a meeting in the Dail with the republics tourist minister with the offer of a high level meeting with Failte ireland sponsored by his office. So enjoy your free stays at aires the M A will work on your behalf while you moan and winge

Brian, you missed the irony in my post and didn't read fully what I had stated earlier....I don't join clubs, this is an open forum and not a club as Ally will tell you. That's why not only me but others would like to know who this apparent mysterious organisation is. I'm not having a go at what you are or who you are but enquiring into it as you never know I may have some knowledge or skill set which could be put to use within the motorhome association because I feel we are all interested in the same subject, motorhoming.

Also if you still feel that I and the others who would like to know more about the MA are moaners and whingers because of our curiosity then that's up to you and we can leave it at that.

just fed up being pilloried for working on other peoples behalf and having to explain myself
there is no secret members are informed after every move forward by e mail. the clubs are the thumb screw by virtue of numbers we also have individual members. I believe i always kept you abreast while talking in work

I took exception about the quip regarding the MCCNI who refused to send reps also that we regard you all at the craic as beer swillers the only reference i can attribute to that was that you informed us that a 24/7 party animal was intent on having a party at donaghadee aire contrary to the aire rules. your words not mine brian

email me at themotorhomeassociation@yahoogroups.co.uk