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Posted: 08.07.2020  ·  #1
I Im thinking of buying a camper in France and Im wondering whats involved in relation to the paper work .Can I drive it back here on the French plates or do I have to get export plates Change of ownership?
I would appreciate any help on this topic thank you
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I don't think you can buy any vehicle in France unless you have a French address. My son works and lives on the Continent and drives a British car.


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I Im thinking of buying a camper in France and Im wondering whats involved in relation to the paper work .Can I drive it back here on the French plates or do I have to get export plates Change of ownership?
I would appreciate any help on this topic thank you
David


Met a guy in Bantry that brought on a Motorhome from France last year, he said he didn't have any hassle. I Don't have any contact for him unfortunately


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Posted: 10.07.2020  ·  #4
Just got a motorhome from Germany and without somebody to help with paperwork it would be a bit of a challenge.Got the motorhome insured on a VIN number.Should be something similar in France regarding exporting the vehicle...

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Posted: 10.07.2020  ·  #5
Export plates are only for new vehicles.
Buying second hand for export within the EU is very straightforward as there are no VAT issues. Buying a secondhand vehicle is like buying anything else secondhand, except for the VRT when registering in Ireland.

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Can someone please explain how Ireland get away with charging VRT when no other EU country charge it?
Just being inquisitive.

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There's a fine and they just pay it 😠

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Posted: 10.07.2020  ·  #8
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Can someone please explain how Ireland get away with charging VRT when no other EU country charge it?
Just being inquisitive.


Nobody's interested in challenging it and it suits the trade as it discourages personal imports.
An account friend of mine has told me it breaks all kinds of tax conventions, in particular, it's a tax which is not quantifiable before a person commits to a transaction.
Imagine buying a house and not knowing the stamp duty liability until after you have concluded the purchase.

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Can someone please explain how Ireland get away with charging VRT when no other EU country charge it?
Just being inquisitive.


because we are in a minority and Ireland hase a record of screwing the ones with the least voice by putting forward the idea that anyone who can import something have to be elitist.and the rest are sheep, who are led to believe the concept.

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Posted: 10.07.2020  ·  #10
Has the European Court of Human rights nothing to say on this matter?


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Posted: 11.07.2020  ·  #11
I don’t think we are alone in charging VRT Denmark’s tax rate is considerably higher than Ireland.
My issue with camper VRT is that unlike cars or any other motorised vehicle that is subject to it, a person cannot quantify their tax liabilities before purchase therefore leaving them in a position where they cannot predict accurately what the tax will be on presenting to the revenue.

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Has the European Court of Human rights nothing to say on this matter?


You’ll find Ireland will use European law when it suits them and ignore it when they can.
It’s all about the ‘politics’ ..... “poly” meaning many & “tics” meaning ‘blood sucking parasites’ .... sums it up quite well really.


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Posted: 11.07.2020  ·  #13
just as a matter of intrest,what were the prices like in france?


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Posted: 11.07.2020  ·  #14
A hell of a lot cheaper than here. Was broke down in Morlaix a few years ago. While waiting for repair, had a brouse of the vans in their yard. If possible would have bought one straight away. Came with automatic satellite dish,awning, bike rack. Brand new 43000. Only problem, would not sell unless you have a French address.


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Only problem, would not sell unless you have a French address.


I wonder :-/ Would they accept the address of the campsite you're staying in or must it be bricks and mortar registered in your name. :-/ :-/


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I wonder why you can buy a boat or a car and bring it home so why cant you export a van ?.


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Posted: 12.07.2020  ·  #17
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Only problem, would not sell unless you have a French address.


All I can say is that dealer must not be familiar with the Free Movements of Goods and Services regulation.
Also, there are no limits on what private people can buy and take with them when they travel between EU countries, as long as the products purchased are for personal use and not for resale, with exception of new means of transport (for example, a car or motorhome). VAT is included in the price of the product in the member state and no further payment of taxes including VAT can be charged here in Ireland.

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Posted: 12.07.2020  ·  #18
I asked that question from another source and the answer I got was.
That why people go to Germany to Buy Motorhomes. The French dont want the business.


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I asked that question from another source and the answer I got was.
That why people go to Germany to Buy Motorhomes. The French dont want the business.


Perhaps there are dealers over there who just don't want business from 'foreigners' but that's a whole different ball game from 'they can't export' or 'they can only sell to French residents' both of which are bullsh1t reasons.


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Posted: 13.07.2020  ·  #21
They are losing out on a big export market in second-hand motorhomes its no wonder that the sales yards you pass, seem to be full of them.

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Posted: 15.07.2020  ·  #22
I hear what you are saying guys but a few years ago a French dealer gave me a quote to trade in my MH against another he had in stock. I didn't to the deal as he was looking for too much for the change.

Again I would expect any impediment placed in the way of a resident of one EU country from making a purchase in another would be contrary to the Free Movements of Goods and Services. It seems contrary to the FMGS that a French person living in Perpignan can't buy down the road in Girona or a Belgian in Ghent and buy down the road in Lille

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Posted: 21.08.2020  ·  #23
The answer is Yes they can sell and export without the Vat. A friend has a deal done. But they can't seem to figure how do you get temporary export plates to drive it home on.
In Germany, ADAC will organize them for you to bring a van home.

If anyone has an answer we would be interested to know,

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Posted: 23.08.2020  ·  #24
I bought a secondhand Landrover in the UK and just drove it over here. Why would a used camper in France be any different?

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Posted: 23.08.2020  ·  #25
UK and Ireland the plate follows the vehicle.
The continent generally the plate follows the owner.
So if you sell the vehicle you keep your plate and the next owner puts his onto what ever vehicle they buy.


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I bought a secondhand Landrover in the UK and just drove it over here. Why would a used camper in France be any different?


Sorry, maybe I should have been a little clearer with " Yes they can sell and export without the Vat. A friend has a deal done."

It's a brand new van from the dealer, so unplated.


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Posted: 24.08.2020  ·  #27
UK and Ireland the plate follows the vehicle.
But not when you change country; my vehicle had to be issued with an Ireland plate.


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Posted: 24.08.2020  ·  #28
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UK and Ireland the plate follows the vehicle.
But not when you change country; my vehicle had to be issued with an Ireland plate.


Correct, but what my point is is that if you buy a van in Germany, the plate stays with the owner.
Therefore you have to go down to the local tax office with the KFZ docs and they will issue with temporary export plates which are valid for a particular period of time.
This allows you to drive the vehicle back to the country that you are importing it from.

I have imported a lot of vehicles over the years, bikes, cars and campervans from not just the UK but US and Germany.
It used to be easier than it is now but in the case of France it is difficult because export plates are not issued unlike Germany.
When buying a used vehicle sometimes you can use the old plates to drive back but you have to be able to arrange insurance on the vehicle, sometimes the local prefecture will cross out the reg number and that makes it difficult.

In the UK and Ireland because the plate follows the vehicle you simply buy the vehicle and arrange temporary insurance on it, then drive home.
Rather more difficult if there isn't even a number plate on the thing! See how far you get down the road before a Gendarme pulls you up and starts into you. France is very bureaucratic.

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