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Posted: 28.07.2019  ·  #1
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Posted: 28.07.2019  ·  #2
Far to often people go on about great Holliday destinations and motorhome parking areas without thinking about the consequences for the residents of that area.
Back at home here it is a well known fact that once a person finds a welcome or safe motorhome area it very soon becomes broadcast and in some cases overused and abused.
I would not want some of this action in close proximity to my home.


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Back at home here it is a well known fact that once a person finds a welcome or safe motorhome area it very soon becomes broadcast and in some cases overused and abused

I could not agree more with you. I could name a few close to me, that have been shut down due to them being abused. I know what the local council are like here. I did advise people not to overuse the places in question. Now they are gone, for everyone.


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The overuse and abuse is by mindless motorhomers. They are far outweighed by sensible motorhome owners.

But as in every single walk of life, the minority ruin it for the majority by overusing an area and not using the simple rule of overcrowding is bad, if there are too many there, move on.

In my view, sharing parking area's is not the issue. The issue is human nature, try stopping that, should keep you busy.

In reality, the more places we have to go, the more spread out we will hopefully be.

Bit strange typing this and getting to the end of "The Great Hack" movie. Social media, namely Facebook, and the false information that is given to motorhome owners does not help our situation.


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What false information are you talking about, Ally


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What false information are you talking about, Ally


Hahaha, see Facebook.


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Here is an example of what I am talking about,we were away on our July Holliday s and one night my other half was looking at something on facebook as i do not do it.
There was this guy who was holidaying in Southern Ireland and had found a lovely car park with toilets near a marina.
The toilets were for marina users so had coded locks but somehow he had been talking to someone around the marina and got the codes.
He now has wrote the codes on a paper sheet and posted on facebook.
Fcuking idiot.


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I understand that. But that’s not false information, just information inappropriately shared


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I understand that. But that’s not false information, just information inappropriately shared


Sorry there were crossed Aires there,I was not trying to reply ref Ally 's post.


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Wrong bylaws are quoted repeatedly on FB. Aires are being advertised as the wrong thing and the rules on using them can be wrong. I've also witnessed the wrong advice that is being given out to new Motorhome owners and that advice is being handed down by Motorhome owners who have had their own Motorhome for three minutes.

Of course there is also great advice and great people handing it out.

What we post on MHC is open to everyone, so it can also be openly corrected. It's not locked in a closed group where the wrong information stays once typed and then to become the general rule of thumb.

Anyhow, this conversation is not about FB, I just made reference as I was watching that documentary whilst replying.


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People fall unwittingly victims to commercial marketing.
A must see aura is created about a destination which allows commercial businesses to thrive in providing services to the visitors.
After a while the time share apartment companies show up with their wares.
In my experience by then, the lure of the original attraction is long gone.

Back to motorhoming.
Social media is the wild fire of gossip but also it creates an aura about a certain destination.
As Ally has pointed out human nature is to join the crowd, even if it is dangerous to do so.
It's harder to be an explorer and avoid the crowds.


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Tbh it still makes me very reluctant to put up a poi, as it could be ruined and shut down in short order, and then it’s gone forever. At least if it’s obscure and you stumble across it, unless you publicise it, it remains obscure. I know that earns you no money, and yes I use the app when touring Ireland, but, if it’s too successful, ultimately it will lead to it’s own demise, IMO. And that’s all it is, my opinion


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How much talk took place ref Howth and the abuse of it and what was the outcome? Well another one which is being overused and abused is Glenarm so wait and see the eventual outcome of that.


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Tbh it still makes me very reluctant to put up a poi, as it could be ruined and shut down in short order, and then it’s gone forever. At least if it’s obscure and you stumble across it, unless you publicise it, it remains obscure. I know that earns you no money, and yes I use the app when touring Ireland, but, if it’s too successful, ultimately it will lead to it’s own demise, IMO. And that’s all it is, my opinion


Bit hypocritical of you. 😛

Guys, the Germans knew all these POIs 20 years ago, they also know the ones you think are obscure, they are in books already. I just made an app that made them come to life for people, with real time reviews and navigation.

Share your information and help spread Motorhome owners more thinly across our very small country.


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Tbh it still makes me very reluctant to put up a poi, as it could be ruined and shut down in short order, and then it’s gone forever. At least if it’s obscure and you stumble across it, unless you publicise it, it remains obscure. I know that earns you no money, and yes I use the app when touring Ireland, but, if it’s too successful, ultimately it will lead to it’s own demise, IMO. And that’s all it is, my opinion


I feel your pain.
I have genuinely stumbled across places to stay in, some free and some paid, but really underpriced, and have had threatening behavior directed at me by other users.
But at the end of the day, those guys don't own the land under their backsides.
I will go to where the locals welcome me and I will try to return the gratitude to the area.

Last Wednesday night we parked at a little marina near the French/ Belgian border. A boat owner approched us after arriving.
Both of us had no common language but we figured out that we were parked in his view of the rising sun.
I moved the mh 30 feet, and he went off delighted.
The little things are huge for some people.


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Tbh it still makes me very reluctant to put up a poi, as it could be ruined and shut down in short order, and then it’s gone forever. At least if it’s obscure and you stumble across it, unless you publicise it, it remains obscure. I know that earns you no money, and yes I use the app when touring Ireland, but, if it’s too successful, ultimately it will lead to it’s own demise, IMO. And that’s all it is, my opinion


Bit hypocritical of you. 😛

Yep. 100% correct. But if I went to a poi and it looked even 75% full, I wouldn’t stay. I just wish everyone else would do the same. And I have seen members sitting out in their chairs, having their beers or wine in council operated Aires, and not a bother on them. To me, that’s worse, again my opinion only


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How much talk took place ref Howth and the abuse of it and what was the outcome? Well another one which is being overused and abused is Glenarm so wait and see the eventual outcome of that.


Exactly, human nature, you'll not change it. I've mostly given up advising, I just do what I think is right.

I would quite happily run Glenarm as an attendant and charge them all £10 to park and put it into the local community. Or frog march them to the pub to spend a few quid. 😁


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Posted: 29.07.2019  ·  #18
Seeing as the original post was about tourism overcrowding and its impacts Airbnb and the like are in the news today in NI due to their impact on communities.

Belfast City Council reviews impact of holiday rental websites https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-48858831


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Tbh it still makes me very reluctant to put up a poi, as it could be ruined and shut down in short order, and then it’s gone forever. At least if it’s obscure and you stumble across it, unless you publicise it, it remains obscure. I know that earns you no money, and yes I use the app when touring Ireland, but, if it’s too successful, ultimately it will lead to it’s own demise, IMO. And that’s all it is, my opinion

You are singing from the same hymn sheet as myself David. Facebook is the biggest culprit of overcrowding at popular destinations in Ireland not the parking app. The parking app is a great tool to find places but Facebook highlights these places and app or no app they will find their way to those places.


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