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Posted: 09.05.2019  ·  #1
was wondering which id be better of going with? either a 12v cello tv which states it uses 38 watts or going for a normal mains Tv which states it uses 22 watts. how much extra power would a 1000w inverter add to the mix? my inverter is typically switched on anyway if im uing the tv for the sky box. Also if its needed information i have x4 115ah leisure batteries and x2 120w solar panels on the roof.

my current tv is a 12v cello but the sound from it is terrible so im looking for a change. just dont know what to go with


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was wondering which id be better of going with? either a 12v cello tv which states it uses 38 watts or going for a normal mains Tv which states it uses 22 watts. how much extra power would a 1000w inverter add to the mix? my inverter is typically switched on anyway if im uing the tv for the sky box. Also if its needed information i have x4 115ah leisure batteries and x2 120w solar panels on the roof.

my current tv is a 12v cello but the sound from it is terrible so im looking for a change. just dont know what to go with


Have you considered just hooking up a speaker to the existing TV?

My kids were complaining about the sound on a movie they were playing from a memory stick on a Cello TV at the weekend.

I had a bluetooth speaker in the van but also a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo lead so I hooked it up and hey presto all was good in the world again.


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i use a bluetooth speaker at the min. so been using that method for a while now. im in the mood for an upgrade this year in quality and size anyway


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You've enough power there for a small town so I don't think there's a problem going either way 😀😀


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I've 3 x 32 inch tv's (yes it's an rv 😐) run by a 1000w inverter fed by 2 x 110 batteries and 2 x 100w solar panels and it all works well for us.


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Cant be a bad thing can it 😂😂😂
I'd a few problems last year with power so I've added another solar panel this year along with 2 more batterys.

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You've enough power there for a small town so I don't think there's a problem going either way 😀😀


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So what I gather here from everyone is just go get a TV that I like then? I suppose the difference is watts between the too is spilltinng hairs at this point. Cant wait to get a trip out now. Weather is looking good next week for it


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I have a 12v cello too. I expected the sound to be awful so I just use an external speaker with its own internal power supply. It can be recharged off the leisure batteries using usb.


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The best TV I've ever seen was when an A class van owner put a 50 inch screen on the dash, it was like home cinema 😁😁 wiring all set up to go


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was wondering which id be better of going with? either a 12v cello tv which states it uses 38 watts or going for a normal mains Tv which states it uses 22 watts. how much extra power would a 1000w inverter add to the mix? my inverter is typically switched on anyway if im uing the tv for the sky box. Also if its needed information i have x4 115ah leisure batteries and x2 120w solar panels on the roof.

my current tv is a 12v cello but the sound from it is terrible so im looking for a change. just dont know what to go with


The future is a smart tv with internet streaming.
Maybe, now is the time to invest into this technology.
Personally I am only waiting for our tv or ariel to kicked the bucket.
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Very good point Malcolm see what's new


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The future is a smart tv with internet streaming.
Maybe, now is the time to invest into this technology.
Personally I am only waiting for our tv or ariel to kicked the bucket.
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I’m just going to get a lightning to HDMI lead so I can stream downloaded or live stream TV/Netflix to my Cello TV from my iPhone or iPad. I use Chromecasts to stream wirelessly at home but it needs my WiFI router to work. The proper apple connector is very expensive at about £50 but cheaper than a smart TV that would still need to tether to your phone or MIFI or use its own data subscription. I don’t watch enough TV in the van to justify it yet so I just use a cheap Freeview aerial or use movies on a big USB powered hard drive.


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I could never see the point in those expensive 12v TVs. I have a 150 watt pure sine inverter and that runs 2 240v TVs a 230v Sky box and a couple of 230v led table lamps.
Having a pure sine wave inverter also means I can charge sensitive stuff like electrc toothbrushes and run a 230v fan when the weather gets a bit hot.


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As pointed out in a previous post, a TV can be made work off 12 volts without be a “12 volt TV”. If it has an external power supply, that provides DC power in or around 12 volts, then you can bypass the external power supply altogether and power off your leisure battery.

My ‘mains’ TV is powered off an external p.s.u/ power brick. So it is actually a DC powered TV. The brick provides about 14 volts. That’s close enough to my 12 volts system to work, which really is about 12.6 volts at night, 14.7 volts during sunny days ( thanks solar energy!). All I had to do was find a matching jack connector to work with my TV. Had I not, I would have butchered my power brick cable, luckily I didn’t have to.

So yeah, there is no need to go with an expensive “12 Volt TV” that markets itself as so, for the caravan market and charges a premium. Most modern LCD TVs will run on 12 volts. But if you’re looking for one Just be sure not to get one that is directly powered by a figure of eight mains power chord. Otherwise, if you’re powering off an inverter, than it doesn’t matter.


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what annoys me most about mine is one of the guys that comes with us bought the exact same cello as i did yet his sound is great.. well i say great... a whole lot better than mine. which makes me thing mine was just faulty.
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I have a 12v cello too. I expected the sound to be awful so I just use an external speaker with its own internal power supply. It can be recharged off the leisure batteries using usb.


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My Cello was only about £100 from memory and I move it into the house during the winter for use in a Spare room. They seem a little more expensive now. I had another similar sized non 12v tv for the kitchen already (different brand) and the sound was awful so I just assume it is par for the course for those cheap small lcd TVs. Are pair of £10 usb powered speakers sorted the kitchen tv. I used a self powered speaker for the Motorhome one as I wanted the USB port on the TV to be kept free for attaching an external USB hard drive.


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the inverter i have at the moment is just a cheap one. ive been looking at the pure sine ones online. they worth the extra buck?
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I could never see the point in those expensive 12v TVs. I have a 150 watt pure sine inverter and that runs 2 240v TVs a 230v Sky box and a couple of 230v led table lamps.
Having a pure sine wave inverter also means I can charge sensitive stuff like electrc toothbrushes and run a 230v fan when the weather gets a bit hot.


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I have a Waeco/Dometic 300 Watt inverter which I considered to be good. I also have a cheap 2500 Watt inverter for hairdyer etc.

Last weekend I tried both to charge my e-bike battery, both failed. I used another Craic'ers Pure Sine Wave inverter and it worked perfectly.

Big difference.


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The one I have in my cart is a 3000w pure sine, just didn't udnerstand the difference. is that overkill?. It's been there from last year I just havnt had the money spare to pick it up until now . I got the cheap 1000 watt form my late father in law, was a member here too.
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I have a Waeco/Dometic 300 Watt inverter which I considered to be good. I also have a cheap 2500 Watt inverter for hairdyer etc.

Last weekend I tried both to charge my e-bike battery, both failed. I used another Craic'ers Pure Sine Wave inverter and it worked perfectly.

Big difference.


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Depends what you want to run, sorry I jumped into the topic.

I have a feeling I know who your late Father in Law was.


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He was hard not to know, great man :) and running the bigger stuff like my wife's hairdryer/ strightners would be the hight of it. Anything more is only ever packed If we are going on site for the weekend. Don't have things like a microwave in the van
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Depends what you want to run, sorry I jumped into the topic.

I have a feeling I know who your late Father in Law was.


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the inverter i have at the moment is just a cheap one. ive been looking at the pure sine ones online. they worth the extra buck?
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I could never see the point in those expensive 12v TVs. I have a 150 watt pure sine inverter and that runs 2 240v TVs a 230v Sky box and a couple of 230v led table lamps.
Having a pure sine wave inverter also means I can charge sensitive stuff like electrc toothbrushes and run a 230v fan when the weather gets a bit hot.



One of the things about quasi sine wave inverters is that anything with an electric motor will not run properly but they make no difference to stuff producing heat.
Using one for a hairdryer is ok but with the heat being 100% and the fan running a bit slow the hair dryer can overheat. Sophisticated chargers don't like quasi units at all.

Regarding tv's, those with an external transformer from 230v to 12v it is often not advisable to chop the transformer and make a direct connection to the 12v supply. The output from the transformer is usually a stabilised 12v and tv may not like the variation between 11.8v and 14.4v which occurs in the 12v system when the battery is running down and when it is on charge. For those wanting a 12v supply to a tv with an external transformer one of these is the best job


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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COT…SwY7lcpfhO

I have the 2000W Pure Sine Wave version of this one. Got it on Gumtree for £200.
Very pleased with it.
Wife boils the kettle on it every hour plus the microwave an odd time and the odd blast of the hair drier.
Have 2 x 110 watt leisure batteries fed by 2 x 100W solar panel's and MPPT controller.


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