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· Posted: 27.03.2019 · #1

https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-cars-safety-4562711-Mar2019/

Looks like that the private car is going to be speed limited like an over 3500kg.

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· Posted: 27.03.2019 · #2

Seems to suggest that it will be more like adaptive cruise control as opposed to speed limiters.
A lot of the high end German marques already have speed limiters fitted - albeit limiting them to 250kmph!

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· Posted: 27.03.2019 · #3

Best thing that could happen in my opinion,

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· Posted: 27.03.2019 · #4

can you imaging how that will work on say a motorbike, if it decides its applying the brakes!

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· Posted: 27.03.2019 · #5

That lane assistance and emergency braking technology is brilliant. I hired a Merc in Germany a couple of years ago and it had all that and more. What a pleasure to drive. With cruise-control on, the driver didn't really have much to do at all...

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· Posted: 27.03.2019 · #6

I keep my van under 250km/ph anyway

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· Posted: 27.03.2019 · #7

Quote by Thorn123

https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-cars-safety-4562711-Mar2019/

Looks like that the private car is going to be speed limited like an over 3500kg.

Malcolm, I don't understand this bit ( speed limited like an over 3500kg. )?

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· Posted: 27.03.2019 · #8

Sorry Sprinter.
I should have said " over 3500 kg commercial".

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· Posted: 28.03.2019 · #9

HGVs, Buses etc have limiters fitted already

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· Posted: 28.03.2019 · #10

Thorn, you are not completely wrong, If you have a 3.5 towing a two tonne trailer then you need a tachograph, I dont know if that applies to a motorhome towing a car on a trailer because it is a private vehicle .

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· Posted: 28.03.2019 · #11

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Commercial vehicles not exceeding 3,500kg GVW are not fitted with tacho's as the Driving Time Directive does not apply and they can be driven on a B (car) licence. Add a trailer up to 3,500kg GVW and a. E+B will do.
I've never come across any regulation which says a tacho is required for such a combination.

As for motorhomes, being private passenger vehicles, they are not subject to the Driving Time Directive not matter what their GVW is so no tacho is required, whether a trailer is attached or not.

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· Posted: 28.03.2019 · #12

was way off my route.

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· Posted: 28.03.2019 · #13

Quote by Thorn123

Sorry Sprinter.
I should have said " over 3500 kg commercial".

HGVs, Buses etc have limiters fitted already.
Malcolm I know exactly what you were trying to say.
My question really is what limit are they set too and who checks them, it presumably should be 90kph But a rarity , on the m11 which I travel regularly would be , to come across a HGV or truck doing less then 100kph.
This morning with your post in mind on the M1 going north I checked a number of vehicles,all over the speed limit. Just coming up the the toll I passed a HGV doing 110 with another overtaking the two of us. so where are the limiters. What exactly is the point when no one ever checks them. and its a policing policy to prioritizes cars over goods vehicles

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· Posted: 28.03.2019 · #14

In the LGV and HGV game, there is a cottage industry running all sorts of schemes to bypass the speed limiter.
As far as I know the Tacho and limiter on a truck has to be calibrated every 4 years.
When I replaced the ECU in our motorhome last Autumn, it had to be reprogrammed to match the keys and etc.
One of the questions that the technician asked " What the max speed setting do you want?"
The mh is 2010 reg Transit and Ford would be very basic in adding extras to their standard models.
The technician explained that once you have cruise control, limiting your max speed is only a click or two on the laptop.
Different point.
I can't see it being implemented because then the German Autobans would need speed zones.
Malcolm

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· Posted: 28.03.2019 · #15

Lads,
I think that by speed limiters they may mean the ability to set (like cruise control) the max speed you want to do.and then it will not pass that speed,

On a trip last year i had a work van volkswagen caddy 2016 and it had cruise control and speed limiting, it was a joy to drive as i set the cruise control on the motorway and the limiter on the national road and i didnt have to worry about going over the speed limit,

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· Posted: 29.03.2019 · #16

Ref Vans towing trailers, the law states that the weight of the trailer must be added to the gross weight of the van,i.e if a van has a gvw of 3.5 and towing a trailer of 2 tonnes then it needs to have a tachograph and an O licence to operate. But there are two exceptions 1/ that the vehicle is not being used for hire or reward and 2/ That the vehicle does not travel from its base outside a 50 mile radius. To be honest I have never seen a 3.5 van fitted with a tacho. Takes me back to the old days when coming over on the Larne Ferry and getting pulled into the police check at Castle Douglas to hear the D O T inspector checking tachos saying why does every Irish lorry drivers have a brother or cousin to drive it to the boat so the drivers time starts at Cairnryan. Not a happy man

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