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Posted: 22.10.2018  ·  #1
We headed away for a week in Walter the RV.

Week before we left there was a problem with a rear wheel cylinder. Bought two new ones from America and got them fitted, took longer than expected as sadly our Mechanics Mother passed away. He unbelievably turned up the next day to finish the job, despite me saying to leave it - understandably.

I took the opportunity to buy a new master cylinder.

We headed of last Sunday 14th October, we were about to leave Castlewellan TITTs on the Monday morning and I noticed some drips from the van. Thought I better check that out as we were driving to Kildare.

One connection on master Cylinder was leaking, got that tightened and pressed the pedal, all was good. Pressed pedal again and it went to the floor! What the hell!!

As the fluid was coming from inside the wheel we thought the seals on the caliper had burst, 27 years old, back brakes fixed, more pressure etc etc - I clamped the brake hose and topped it up with brake fluid and decided to head for home. Holiday over :(
Got less than a mile down the road and there was no way we were driving so I pulled in, topped it up with fluid again but couldn't understand where it was going. I inspected again and it was running out of the rear wheel!! Dismayed I topped it up and headed back to Castlewellan TITTs.

So I thought, no other option but to get it recovered home. I phone 3 recovery companies, one of them was the respected Agnew's. Not one of them rang me back with a price, wtf! Stranded.

I phoned my mechanic, whom I didn't want to annoy and he knew straight away what was up with the rear wheel, he couldn't understand the front caliper but agreed it must be that. I ordered two new calipers from America and asked him to collect them when they arrive and bring them to Castlewellan to fit them. It was a cheaper option than the £500 plus prices we were being suggested to get carried home, it's automatic so we couldn't tow it.

You may ask why I didn't have breakdown cover, well it's old and not everyone wants to do it, also it's 5.5tonne. I had a company recommended by FC but when I went do it online I couldn't find a selection for that vehicle, I have since went back and see it had a "Chevrolet - Motorcarvan" option - but hey, too late for this occasion.

New calipers arrived on Thursday and the mechanic came to fit them. We had moved to Castlewellan campsite as we needed electric to operate his welder and Dave & Naomi came to meet us, we were heading to Kildare to meet them!
As the mechanic thought, the rear wheel cylinder piston had popped out, a common fault on those hubs, whatever holds the cylinder in place is not the best, he welded it back in with two tacks of weld, it will not move again.

He started to take front wheels off and realised it was a hose had split and it was a fine jet of spray was spraying onto the calipers and making it look like them that was leaking. Of course he had no hose, so clamped that hose off, and we bled the system and had brakes, albeit only 3.
I drove around to get the toilet emptied fill up with water etc and when I got back noticed more fluid coming out of the front. By this time ..... :devil: well you cam imagine!

On further inspection it was a transmission cooling hose leaking, Dave and I took it off and inspected, we got it tightened up and the leak stopped.
We drove home a week later on the Sunday and all was going well. Brakes were surprisingly great but I took it very easy and very slow!

Getting near Antrim, coming up the M2 and passing the Apple Green I seen masses of smoke from the back, immediately pulled over to the hard shoulder and just thought "what now!""

The transmission hose this time had burst and the gear oil was pouring onto the exhaust. Walked back to Apple green, bought two litres of Automatic transmission Fluid, phoned Father who came up with tools, cut the pipe shorter and refitted and then topped up with fluid, dipped it and good to go.

We made it home. The RV is currently getting two new calipers fitted, the other rear wheel cylinder tacked and new hoses all round. It will now be a complete new braking system from front to back.
The transmission hoses are brand new so we think maybe a sharp edge on the jubilee clip, that will be investigated.

Some holiday, eh!?


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Posted: 22.10.2018  ·  #2
wow, thats the sort of stuff that breaks you.(no pun intended)
Hope youre sorted now buddy, talk to you soon.


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Posted: 22.10.2018  ·  #3
I’d say the air was blue, and not a tin of carlsberg left in a 5 mile radius. Hopefully that’s the end of it now. R u wanting a dodgy fridge to go with all that, new one being fitted as I type


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R u wanting a dodgy fridge to go with all that, new one being fitted as I type


Ask Anchorpoint if it could be forced to use Gas only, bypassing that dodgy board.


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Posted: 22.10.2018  ·  #5
Jaysus Ally...When it rains it really pour's! Good to hear it's back on track.,.


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Ask Anchorpoint if it could be forced to use Gas only, bypassing that dodgy board.

Will do when I get back. In kilaloe having lunch


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Bloody hell, sorry to hear - it’s very disheartening, particularly when the vehicle is still in the new to you stage! Fingers crossed with all that work done here will be some plain sailing ahead!


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Posted: 22.10.2018  ·  #8
Put it down to a ‘shakedown’ trip.
Once sorted these old girls go on for ever, at least you know it’s done and sorted now.


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That was a bit of a bummer, but take faith in the fact that you were stranded at Castlewellan, not on the side of a road. You sound that you made the best of a bad situation and luckily there has been nice weather over last week.
On a side note, I think that there is a time limit on the use of rubber hydraulic hose before they have to be replaced .
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Put it down to a ‘shakedown’ trip.
Once sorted these old girls go on for ever, at least you know it’s done and sorted now.


A damm, it’s bad but could be much worse, it is only mechanical and all of that can be sorted. Rubber hoses and drive belts don’t like to be standing Idel for prolonged periods. Check that your brake drum is in tolerance, excessive wear plus worn shoes can result in cylinder pistons coming out.


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I had to recently price a breakdown tow. There is a €50 standing charge and then €100 per hour hire or €1 per km travelled, which ever is the greater cost. This was based on a 12 ton recovery truck which would handle most campers/ motorhomes.
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Sorry to hear you missed your Kildare trip Ally but at least Dave and Naomi came up to you.
We missed you as we stopped in Castlewellan TiTTs on Saturday for the night on the way home from a short trip. We got a walk in the afternoon but didn't go near the campsite.

Good to hear the van drive home and the remaining work is going to be sorted.


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Hope you don’t want the television back seems it was the only bloody thing that was working in your rv😂
Just had to get that in hope you get sorted soon 👍🚐


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Ask Anchorpoint if it could be forced to use Gas only, bypassing that dodgy board.

While it might be possible it would take a lot of tricking around. Among the issues involved is that the temperature sensors and controls are all connected through that board. All that you have on the fridge is an In-Off switch and a button to up or down the temperature on a 1-5 led light scale. Basically you would need to build a new control board of some description to make it operate. I suppose you could put in separate temperature sensors etc, but some effort.
Empty the piggy bank and buy a fridge might be best in long run. However it’s there at the minute if you want it.


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Put it down to a ‘shakedown’ trip.



That was meant to be the Craic meet at Donagheys weekend and you know what happened there :-/ >_<


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hydrophobic,
This was the root of your problem.
Brake fluid is hydrophobic which means that the brake fluid absorbs water. While a wagon is parked up for a long period, this water corrodes the inner pistons of the calipers and other metal surfaces like the internal walls of steel piping. This water also hardens the inside of rubber hoses as well.
Because of the corrosion happening from the inside out, it is impossible for a mechanic to examine this properly.
Edd China on Wheeler Dealers educated me last night on the telly with a car restoration project.
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oh :)

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hydrophobic,
This was the root of your problem.
Brake fluid is hydrophobic which means that the brake fluid absorbs water. While a wagon is parked up for a long period, this water corrodes the inner pistons of the calipers and other metal surfaces like the internal walls of steel piping. This water also hardens the inside of rubber hoses as well.
Because of the corrosion happening from the inside out, it is impossible for a mechanic to examine this properly.
Edd China on Wheeler Dealers educated me last night on the telly with a car restoration project.
Malcolm


Good old Edd👍
I am finding it hard to warm to the new Guy though


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Good old Edd👍
I am finding it hard to warm to the new Guy though


Not his fault the production team have changed the format to a cheaper one


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Good old Edd👍
I am finding it hard to warm to the new Guy though


Not his fault the production team have changed the format to a cheaper one


I know, but still finding it hard though. I think they ruined it


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Brakes all fixed and bloody good :)


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What a nightmare...but thankfully you've got it sorted.


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Now there will be no STOPPING you. 😝


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:D


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Anchors aweigh!


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Now there will be no STOPPING you. 😝

Groan 🙄😆


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Just to finish this little nightmare of a blog off ...........

New Transmission hoses fitted today, better/stronger ones. The new hoses we had already bought may be fake, or a faulty batch - not sure yet.

Test driven today, up and down hills, up and down gears, brakes on brakes off. Parked on a nice bit of dry level road when I got back and ZERO leaks :)

Hopefully that's the end of that for a number of years!


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What it needs now is a good hard drive to Kilfinane 😉


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What it needs now is a good hard drive to Kilfinane 😉


:sleep:

Only if you pay for the fuel :)


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Can you not wash a drop of red for the trip 😳😜
You might have to set up a plant to keep her running


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Only if you pay for the fuel :)


Chance a drop of green 😉😉 that yolk will have it well burned before you get dipped 😂😂😂


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is that what the extra black tank is under her for?


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What it needs now is a good hard drive to Kilfinane 😉


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Only if you pay for the fuel :)


I’d say she would purr happily on burnt oil, I have a few drums waiting, so no excuses.


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is that what the extra black tank is under her for?


HAHA

I wouldn't want to run it on the stuff that's in that black tank! :sick:


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I’d say she would purr happily on burnt oil, I have a few drums waiting, so no excuses.


It would probably run on coal dust :)

I'd love to make it to Kilfinane but it's just to far away for a weekend getaway, if we had the Friday or the Monday also it would be doable, but we don't.


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Ok last post and hopefully the end of this blog. Now in Drum Manor TiTTs, it drove and braked superbly.

I'll have a few to celebrate 😁


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And the new word this week is HYDROPHOBIC.
I wonder is Ally alcophobic yet?


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Ok first series is over,interesting enough. What will series 2 be like?


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Wow, I'd blanked this from my memory.


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