French Speed Limits

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· Posted: 03.07.2018 · #1

Just been having a trawl through the internet regarding the reduced national speed limit in France from 90kph to 80 kph.

Discovered several other existing requirements that I was not aware of in relation to MH over 3500kg, over 7m long or towing

The attached summaries the legislation as I read it

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· Posted: 03.07.2018 · #2

Good info to have. Going over in August. Thanks

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· Posted: 03.07.2018 · #3

Quote by Thornwood

Good info to have. Going over in August. Thanks

Something to remember every village has a 30km speed limit. Irrespective of signage or not.

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· Posted: 03.07.2018 · #4

Quote by sprinter

Quote by Thornwood

Good info to have. Going over in August. Thanks

Something to remember every village has a 30km speed limit. Irrespective of signage or not.

I think you mean 50kmh

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· Posted: 03.07.2018 · #5

Quote by Daffysparks

Quote by sprinter

Quote by Thornwood

Good info to have. Going over in August. Thanks

Something to remember every village has a 30km speed limit. Irrespective of signage or not.

I think you mean 50kmh

The "town sign board" giving the name of the village defines the start of the 50kph zone

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· Posted: 03.07.2018 · #6

To put this into layman terms, when on a motorway follow an artic truck, 55 metres behind it, unless you are shorter than 7 metres and under 3500kgs.
If you are under 3500kgs and shorter than 7 metres follow a bus at 55 metres between you and it, you will be grand.
The main benefit of these travelling speeds will be the fuel savings.
Question?
How many broken white line markings is 55 metres, roughly?

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· Posted: 03.07.2018 · #7

The "new" French speed limits make it more or less the same as here for vehicles over 3T, 70mph on motorway, 60mph on dual carriageway and 50mph on single carriageway roads plus the signposted limits.

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· Posted: 04.07.2018 · #8

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Agreed, assume you mean over 3.5T

The big new thing to me (even though it is not a new regulation) is that in built up areas where there is a posted 70kph sign this does not apply to over 3500kg. The limit for over 3500kg is 50kph in all built up areas except for the Paris Periphique.

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· Posted: 04.07.2018 · #9

Good post. Very informative indeed

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· Posted: 04.07.2018 · #10

Thanks for that. I noticed that there some changes happening, but I had forgotten to look at the specifics.
I am going in 2 weeks time.

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· Posted: 04.07.2018 · #11

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No, its over max unladen weight of 3.05T, which most motorhomes fall into

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

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· Posted: 05.07.2018 · #12

The UK speed limits for over 3.05T unladen are similar to the French limits for over 3.5T GVW.

While it is virtually impossible to determine if a van is above or below the 3.05T limit, it is easier to determine if the GVW is above or below the 3.5T limit from either the V5 or by looking at the plate below the bonnet.

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· Posted: 05.07.2018 · #13

The 3.05 unladen limit is a complete nonesense in my opinion. Whoever thought of that !?

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· Posted: 05.07.2018 · #14

Is that the same as 'Mass in service' in the tax book. Mine shows 2992. Can't find any other figure, other than max permissible mass of 3500 and trailer weights.

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· Posted: 05.07.2018 · #15

My V5C only has the value entered for Revenue Weight. All of the other weights are not entered.

Mass in Service is not the same as Unladen Weight. It could be a couple of hundred kg higher than Unladen Weight

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· Posted: 05.07.2018 · #16

Mass in Service

Para 2.6 of Appendix I of 95/48/EC.
“Mass of the vehicle with bodywork in running order, or mass of the chassis with cab if the manufacturer does not fit the bodywork (including coolant, oils, fuel, tools, spare wheel and driver).”

Para 1.1 of Appendix I of Annex II of 95/48/EC.
“In case of a motor caravan the mass corresponding to fresh water and gas storage tanks filled to 90% capacity shall also be included.”

I take this to be a motorhome completely empty of any ‘loose’ items and excluding passengers.

Unladen weight

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/ar…-explained.
“The unladen weight of any vehicle is the vehicle's own weight when not carrying any goods or burden. This is inclusive of the body and all parts which are necessary or usually used with the vehicle or trailer when working on a road exclusive of fuel.”

I take this to be a motorhome completely empty of any ‘loose’ items and excluding water, fuel, driver and passengers

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