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Posted: 05.01.2016  ·  #1
Hi All,

Hope you don't mind me 'lumping' these all into one.. We've had a couple of great trips in the van and are getting more comfortable with it. There are a few things however I was hoping you might be able to help me with... (I've searched for answers, but haven't managed to hit on them yet, so apologies if it's been covered!) also - if you need more info.. let me know :)

1) Batteries & Charging...We used the battery down to about 12 on the meter whilst away so in advance of our next trip I plugged it into the house for 3/4 days... But it didn't go up beyond 12.5? Is this a sign of needing new batteries? How long should it take to charge? The charging light flashes green when plugged in and the 12v is off but I'm not noticing any difference otherwise! Does the battery charge when you're driving?

2) Our door handle and lock has only as of a couple of days ago started acting up - in so much as it is protruding from the socket/handle section (can upload photo if it might be useful) are they easily fixed or replaced? if feels like the spring in it has come away from whatever was holding it in position before.. but that's just a guesstimate!

3) Some had fitted a rear parking camera, which is fixed on the back, but has removed half of the wiring and has no screen. I'm not too electrically minded - but generally speaking, are these easy to remove (as I've no real need for it!)

4) Air suspension.. can't figure this out :P there is clearly a valve beside the handbrake, and there are lines going to the rear... I'm contemplating getting suds and an electric compressor to find the source of a leak (Which I'm assuming there is, as I cant seem to get any pressure in it) anyone had anything like that before?

5) It is an old engine (93 ducato, 2.5 diesel) and we don't run it everyday. But in terms of starting it can take 2 x turns to start or a touch of the accelerator as it's biting to get it firing on all... Just wondering could this be linked to the (possibly) weak batteries or is it likely to be a starter motor/injector issue (or maybe just in need of a good service!?)

I'm reasonably useful when it comes to pulling things apart and figuring them out.. but i usually have a haynes manual or similar as a back up :) any help would be appreciated, and I also hope to update this with whatever solutions I do find!

Thanks a mill,

Killian


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Posted: 05.01.2016  ·  #2
I think you need all your batteries checked, they sound depleted. I would very gently try to take the door handle/lock off and see if theres a dodgy spring lying in there, but what made it happen? Old age, wear and tear? Are the leads for the camera exposed? If it was me I'd just snip them off so that they're out of sight, if there's no screen etc they're hardly connected to the live. I know nothing about air suspension but you're in the right place. Have fun.....


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Posted: 05.01.2016  ·  #3
Batteries seem the right choice to try. Helga has great pointers and sorry i Cant help with air suspension either.


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Posted: 05.01.2016  ·  #4
On the batteries - thanks for that! Will do... Is it worth getting a simple multimeter?

The door handle/lock - I'm really not sure, it had been perfect up till the other day! I'll try a gentle dismantle and see what happens!

The camera looks to be a mess... There's jacks and leads coming from the floor and a switch/control box of sorts behind the radio... I'm half tempted to pick up a screen to see if it even works - but i juat wouldn't have the use for it!

Thanks a mill, hoping once this rain stops to get stuck into the couple of bits!


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Posted: 06.01.2016  ·  #5
A multi metre is a good thing to have in the van so buying one is not a waste of money ,your starting problems, may be you need to replace the glow plugs or battery as has been suggested , I live in Kildare too if you would like me to have a look at the van with you PM me your address


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Posted: 06.01.2016  ·  #7
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A multi metre is a good thing to have in the van so buying one is not a waste of money ,your starting problems, may be you need to replace the glow plugs or battery as has been suggested , I live in Kildare too if you would like me to have a look at the van with you PM me your address


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Posted: 06.01.2016  ·  #8
my thoughts exactly :) Sure where else would you get the likes of it! :)


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Posted: 06.01.2016  ·  #9
hi killiand, if its any use I recently bought a 1994 hymer 55 on a ducato with the 2.5td engine,
I believe that on engine there are no glow plugs as such instead there is a pre heat in the manifold and the relay for that is on the wing over the battery. I believe they are troublesome mine has a push button fitted! as regards starting, if mine started after 2 turns from cold I would be estactic! sometimes after lying up for a few days the battery sounds like its a little flat but after a few turns she bursts into life, but I will get the battery checked just to be happy,


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Posted: 06.01.2016  ·  #10
4) Air suspension.. can't figure this out :P there is clearly a valve beside the handbrake, and there are lines going to the rear... I'm contemplating getting suds and an electric compressor to find the source of a leak (Which I'm assuming there is, as I cant seem to get any pressure in it) anyone had anything like that before?

I have air suspension on my van - do you have a pressure gauge connected to the lines? On my system there is a pressure gauge and two independently switched inlet/outlet valves which then tells you the pressure in both lines independently. If you can't get air in I would suggest that the schrader inlet valve may well be jammed but your getting air in then its not your problem. do the air bags hold their pressure?

If it helps can upload a photo of my top up valve etc


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Posted: 07.01.2016  ·  #11
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if mine started after 2 turns from cold I would be estactic! sometimes after lying up for a few days the battery sounds like its a little flat but after a few turns she bursts into life, but I will get the battery checked just to be happy,


ye - to be fair, I've gone a couple of weeks at a time and I keep joking that it'll always be within 3 turns she'll jump to life! and she does! the thing that gets me is - even if there's a lot of driving over a weekend, the start can still need that little bit of 'encouragement' - and then the charging issue on top of that has the seed planted.. you're absolutely right, I'll check them to put my mind at ease if nothing else!

Will also look for that manifold - would that be on a non-turbo as well?

Broms- thanks for that.. there's a guage beside the schrader valve and there's a constant nil reading on it.. I hadn't thought to check the valve tself, so I'll give that a shot first (definitely have the tool for it in the shed somewhere!) but I haven't identified an outlet valve yet.. where is it located on your system?

Thanks for the help!


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Posted: 17.01.2016  ·  #12
One job off the list!!

The door handle: as it turned out, the circlip which holds the barrel in place within the mech, had come off - leaving the barrel and handle without the required tension! Managed pull apart and get back together, only to break the plastic that receives the screws when I was tightening if up - DOH!!

So a new door lock has been added to the list!! 🇧🇭


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Posted: 17.01.2016  ·  #13
Re the starting.

Although mine is a 2.3 and slightly different thought you may be interested in advice given to me by a Diesel engine specialist.

If you use fully synthetic oil in a Motorhome (as recommended for mine) this can cause problems as fully syn is designed for heavy use (i.e. every day). On a vehicle that is not used say every 2-3 days max all of the oil will fully drain back into the sump and unlike part synthetic or non synthetic it FULLY DRAINS DOWN thus taking all of the slippy stuff off everything, so when you come to start after a few days you are moving metal on metal thus a lot more effort to turn/start hence the reason it starts and speeds up after 2 or 3 cranks (the oil has got there)
I now use Semi synthetic and it starts first time no matter how long I leave it.

Also change the oil ever 12 months even though according to schedule it should be good for 000's more as winter can cause condensation in the engine and water can get in the oil

Interested to hear if anybody has had similar advice/experiences

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Posted: 17.01.2016  ·  #14
That's exactly what i used to do with our last 2.3 jtd and never had a problem. :up:


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Posted: 17.01.2016  ·  #15
Thanks a mill for that!

I was given different advice with regards to lubrication which was - NEVER use dipethane as a cleaner! And to drop some two strike motor oil into the petrol - as it will stay on the injectors etc and keep them nice and lubricated! Not sure if anyone has heard similar?

Excellent to know about the full vs semi synth - hadn't thought of that and it would make a lot of sense!


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Posted: 26.01.2016  ·  #16
Nice to meet you 2 at the weekend ,I never got to look at your van with you but it is sitting well so i dont think you have a leak in your air suspension , I think Broms has the right idea, my air suspension pumps up like a tyre with built in gauges for each line , Re your slow starting ,try cleaning the battery earth strap where it is earthed to the body and also consider fitting a second earth strap too older earth straps can corrode internally and lose some of their poke , dont know why your van has a reversing camera ,you dont need it O-)


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Posted: 26.01.2016  ·  #17
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Thanks a mill for that!

I was given different advice with regards to lubrication which was - NEVER use dipethane as a cleaner! And to drop some two strike motor oil into the petrol - as it will stay on the injectors


I use two stroke oil in my diesel, one of those things of one shot every fill, if you happen to get dodgy bleached diesel (and lets face it, there's plenty round Co. Armagh), then the two stroke restores the lubricant in the diesel


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Posted: 28.01.2016  ·  #18
cheers guys!

Dave you're absolutely right! and lovely to meet the crew at the weekend! If I ever need a view behind me I just ask Catherine to head down and let me know!! ;) best reversing camera around!!

the camera has a lead in, that goes to nowhere and there is what appears to be an interface box wired up at the front then (completely separate!) bizarre set up really. but for the sake of 'if it's not broken' I'm just going to leave it where it is for now. It appears to require power from the cigarette lighter and so it shouldn't be draining the 12v at all.

will definitely start using the two stroke.. give everything the best chance of not wearing out!


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