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Planning our French trips has got me thinking what we need to take with us based on previous trips. Something's we didn't take we required, other things we did not use. So this thread will hopefully get us set up and better planned and hopefully may help fellow craicers organise too. I suppose everyone is different and then again what applies to us will also apply to others too. Feel free to add your suggestions and observations.
For us (2 people and a dog) we found preliminary organising a very important factor.
1st of all the ferry booking;
We always sail Ireland-France direct so we tend to book the ferris early, in fact we have two crossings each way booked already for 2016. Always pay the extra €10 with Stena for the flexi booking as we tend to sail out with no plan on the return trip so the flexi booking is handy to chop and change the dates.
With a dog in mind we always leave ours in the MH on the ferry crossing as we find the kennels to be noisy, quite cold and stressful for quiet animals. You get to visit twice and walk/exercise the dog and of course feed her. She is content and happy on board. We only travel with a cabin as the 18 hour crossing will be tiring and uncomfortable otherwise and a good sleep on board with shower facilities is great.
Inoculations and treatments for the dog as well as passports need to be right, updated and current especially the rabies vaccine and required time constraints associated with it.
So to organising and planning the trip. For us, once we reach France the plan is easy.... there isn't one ! ..... We visit an area, if we like then we stay, if not the we move on. So the planning for the actual French part is relatively simple, that being guide books, maps and camping site info as well as the apps on the tablet.
We use the following and they are invaluable;
The "All the Aires" guides and maps. Basically a guide that lists a lot of MH stops ( over 3000) service points and overnight sites. It is laid out well, has the cordinates for the Satnavs and has listings of services and town features.
The other guide that is invaluable is the ACSI guide. This is a campsite guide that offers very good offers for "OFF PEAK" stays.... usually €14 to €16 per night including EHU, waste disposal, water as well as swimming pool use, showers and site facilities. We use sites once/twice a week usually for laundry and the pool is nice to have.
A good French road atlas is very useful, a good hi resolution and hi-detail is very useful. Personally, we use the AA French atlas 1:500000 scale or 4 1/2 miles to the inch scale. The atlas is used for "rough planning" and the general direction we take, to help decide if we use toll roads or not and the final destination detail.
Satnav.... We keep 2, buth updated to latest mapping. One with all the POI's on it, the other for the destination.
APP's on the tablet are really good...... in no particular order...;
Park4night
Campercontact
ACSI camping card APP
ViaMichelin
The APP's require internet connection, see below.

But before all this the MH needs prepping, getting all on board that is needed.... and more importantly leaving out what isn't needed !
So for us we take the following.
Clothes.... Take enough but not over do it, plenty of laundry facilities there.
Bedding, 2 sets of covers, one in use, one in laundry.
Medicines, both prescription and ordinary...make sure enough for your stay.
Also, mosquito repellent and bite treatment.
Footwear; ... trainers, shoes and croc type footwear is very handy.
Sunglasses, hats and items you personally use.

Items in the van:
Cooking items we take:
Whistling kettle, frying Pan, 3 pots, colander, coffee percolator, good knives, chopping board(s), cutlery, cups and glasses, corkscrew/bottle opener, peeling tools, gas oven lighter, selection of Tupperware type containers and we also have a 1.5 litre slow cooker which is useful.
Foodstuffs are personal but Irish/British tea bags are a must and we only take enough food with us for 2 days maximum and then buy fresh.

Other MH items;
Levelling ramps.
EHU leads, have a couple as some sites require long runs. Also an ordinary rewindable extension lead is a handy item on board. Keep continental plug adapters too.
A generator !... We have one but it stays at home, EHU & solar panels up to the job.
Water hose, we have a 10 metre one and make sure you take lots of water tap fitting with you. Hoseloc ones are best and take lots. I keep mine in a Tupperware box.
A large watering can !... Useful if you cannot get to service point to fill water.
A basin, handy to empty grey water if stuck on pitch and gets you away.
We keep a cheapy 1KW/2KW blow heater as well as a small oil filled radiator.
BBQ.... really good thing, but not all sites allow them.
Gas bottles.....so many different solutions, refillable is good... Just make sure your solution is workable and easily obtainable there. A full thread on its own !
A clothes line and pegs !... Plus a travel iron.
Inverter, PSW is best, ours is permanently wired in. Good batteries required and bigger is better, ours is 2x 115ah leisure type. All lights changed to LED type.
Solar panels..... Not necessary but really useful. Ours is 300 watt couplet to a MPPT and permanent off grid is no problem
Television (if you want/need it) ... Sattelite system and receiver. Automatic is good but our last 2 trips was a tripod and dish that worked a treat. Adding Snipe for next trip.
Have breakdown kit in van as well as hi-viz vests for everyone.
A couple of torches can be handy.
A couple of foldable chairs. ( and table for outside)
Bicycles, always have our bikes on the back and use them a lot.

Internet:
Lots of free WiFi in France but we like Internet where possible and to that end we use the "Three" UK network using the "feel at home" feature which allows roaming abroad. Make sure you get a data card and not a voice card as the data card allows tethering via a MiFi dongle. We use iPads and a laptop when there and it assists organising and researching so easy.

I know there is tons of other things and will add to this post in the days/weeks ahead and ask others to add to it too. Hopefully be useful for others thinking on a trip to France.


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We have a winter and a summer pack for our van.
Winter is different footwear and clothing put in and BBQ and outside table taken out.

Other than that we go to France with our usual summer pack.

We don't carry any additional heater. Why do you need a blow heater and an oil filled radiator for France?


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We just go if we need anything we can get it in France/Spain If I started to plan the van would be overweight before leaving the drive. we also take the dog with us no bother at all. I thing you can over plan these trips,go enjoy and make sure you leave room for wine and beer.


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Re: the heater.
We usually go early....March/April or September/October and the nights can be chilly so on EHU it's handy. Our trips are usually extended too, month or 6 weeks at a time.
Don't travel during school holidays, just too hectic for us.


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A good piece of writing. Remarkably similar to what we do.

We also use the France Passion scheme. It suits because we don't always want or need to be in a village or town. One of our most memorable nights was on a vineyard at St. Emillion. The owner had even visited Ballymena !

The only thing that we stock up on before departure is Tea bags. I guess we both must be teaholics!

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Will order the passion guide too, gives more options of places to stay.
Yep, teabags..... Have to take our own too.... Coffee isn't a problem but the teabags....!


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...yes, and if you like baked beans and good bacon better take them with you too.


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Thanks for the info. It's great to hear what other people do as we are new to this and are planning our first trip to France in 2016. We will be travelling with three dogs so any advice would be greatly appreciated


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Best advice I think is to not plan too much once you arrive there. The country is vast, won't see it in one visit ! Or indeed 2 or 3 !
It's so well set up for motorhoming, everything is quite easy and everyday there is always something new should you want to move on or chill out on a nice aire or site for a few days.
We're planning 2 trips this year and maybe a late year trip and we always travel with one dog......... See my opening post re: dogs and see how it goes.
Very enjoyable trips and looking forward to going again.
Any idea when you'll be going over ?
Glad the thread has helped you in the planning.

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Thanks for the info. It's great to hear what other people do as we are new to this and are planning our first trip to France in 2016. We will be travelling with three dogs so any advice would be greatly appreciated


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We are hoping to go for month of May. Have just got the ACSI and will get all the Aires and thinking about France passion.
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Just got the Tag for use in France on the toll roads.
Sorts out the problem of toll booths not accepting Irish Credit/Debit cards.
Straightforward to get, and works on ALL the toll options in France.
Full details on the ATMB Toll Tag website.


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Just got the Tag for use in France on the toll roads.
Sorts out the problem of toll booths not accepting Irish Credit/Debit cards.
Straightforward to get, and works on ALL the toll options in France.
Full details on the ATMB Toll Tag website.


Jonkil. I'm very interested in the fact that you can get a toll tag in Ireland - I thought you had to have at least a UK address - if not a French one obviously. I must look into that for my next trip. Regarding the use of cards - I've driven to the south of Spain over the last 3 years and never had a problem with Irish cards - just had to pop it in - no PIN needed and out it came instantly. A bit different from trying to use a card on an Irish motorway - what a ordeal that is.


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Just got the Tag for use in France on the toll roads.
Sorts out the problem of toll booths not accepting Irish Credit/Debit cards.
Straightforward to get, and works on ALL the toll options in France.
Full details on the ATMB Toll Tag website.


Jonkil. I'm very interested in the fact that you can get a toll tag in Ireland - I thought you had to have at least a UK address - if not a French one obviously. I must look into that for my next trip. Regarding the use of cards - I've driven to the south of Spain over the last 3 years and never had a problem with Irish cards - just had to pop it in - no PIN needed and out it came instantly. A bit different from trying to use a card on an Irish motorway - what a ordeal that is.


Just tried to order the tag, but they forgot to write the constructions in English. Did I miss something?


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No problem getting the toll tag at all.
Registered last Friday on the site, had to sign the contract and post.... Went in post yesterday and they must have mailed the tag Monday as we received it today.
Payment month after travel in France via credit card which they validate on their site at time of application.
Very easily done. Check link in my post...... Google chrome automatically translates it for you.

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Just got the Tag for use in France on the toll roads.
Sorts out the problem of toll booths not accepting Irish Credit/Debit cards.
Straightforward to get, and works on ALL the toll options in France.
Full details on the ATMB Toll Tag website.


Jonkil. I'm very interested in the fact that you can get a toll tag in Ireland - I thought you had to have at least a UK address - if not a French one obviously. I must look into that for my next trip. Regarding the use of cards - I've driven to the south of Spain over the last 3 years and never had a problem with Irish cards - just had to pop it in - no PIN needed and out it came instantly. A bit different from trying to use a card on an Irish motorway - what a ordeal that is.


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Google chrome is your friend ! :up:
As well as a smidgen of schoolboy French !

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Just got the Tag for use in France on the toll roads.
Sorts out the problem of toll booths not accepting Irish Credit/Debit cards.
Straightforward to get, and works on ALL the toll options in France.
Full details on the ATMB Toll Tag website.


Jonkil. I'm very interested in the fact that you can get a toll tag in Ireland - I thought you had to have at least a UK address - if not a French one obviously. I must look into that for my next trip. Regarding the use of cards - I've driven to the south of Spain over the last 3 years and never had a problem with Irish cards - just had to pop it in - no PIN needed and out it came instantly. A bit different from trying to use a card on an Irish motorway - what a ordeal that is.


Just tried to order the tag, but they forgot to write the constructions in English. Did I miss something?


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Jonkil. I'm very interested in the fact that you can get a toll tag in Ireland - I thought you had to have at least a UK address - if not a French one obviously. I must look into that for my next trip. Regarding the use of cards - I've driven to the south of Spain over the last 3 years and never had a problem with Irish cards - just had to pop it in - no PIN needed and out it came instantly. A bit different from trying to use a card on an Irish motorway - what a ordeal that is.


Our debit cards and credit cards always had issues in the toll booths in France... Would not accept them.... Always had cash after that debacle !
Our cards are Bank of Ireland, both debit and credit.

The tag will make it easy.


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I am the Bank of Ireland as well and never had any problem with my cards. Check with the branch where your account is.


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Jonkill is there an annual credit charge on card and 20 euro for tag i will be traveling to france twice this year so 1.60 each month plus tole charges is all i pay thank you


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Jonkill is there an annual credit charge on card and 20 euro for tag i will be traveling to france twice this year so 1.60 each month plus tole charges is all i pay thank you


Affirm.
€1.60 per month ( only charged for months you use it ) + the actual toll charge.
€20 for the tag is correct.
Cheap for the security of getting thru the toll barrier.

Jack the Rev
Always had trouble at the toll booths with the bank of Ireland cards !
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Thank you for great reply i will buy tool tag well worth it pass the ques feel like royalty enjoy ur hols


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I am the Bank of Ireland


I knew you had a few quid Jack ,but i didnt realise it was that much :D


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Hi
Myself and my partner are going to France in early may in a camper. Departing Rosslare to cherbourg down to Le Mans and back up and departing Roscoff. A 2 weeks holiday. looking for some good campsites are places to stay any ideas


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Hi
Myself and my partner are going to France in early may in a camper. Departing Rosslare to cherbourg down to Le Mans and back up and departing Roscoff. A 2 weeks holiday. looking for some good campsites are places to stay any ideas


LOADS of info about motorhoming in france on here if you use the search option.
A high number of the regular contributors travel to france most years and have probably answered any question you might have..

Cherbourg to Le Mans is achievable in an afternoon..

Enjoy your trip. It's a great country to motorhome in....


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Where you are going you will not need campsites all you need is an aires book as there are more aires in Brittany than nearly the rest of France some lovely bays also download camper stops Edd :up:


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Annmarie.... Tons and tons of options.
Le-Mans is easy to get to in a day really..... but... take your time going down and back.
Pick Aires/sites with interesting history and things to do..... Example is sainte-mere-eglise... 1st town liberated in France in WW2
Lots of nice towns with Aires, nice municipal site too in Le-Mans and there is plenty of options on your trip.
Get your hands on the Campercontact app and also park4night app..... both very useful.
Enjoy the trip and keep us updated.


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Agree with John, plus I found this site tonight, All in French, but you'll learn to navigate around it.
http://www.france-voyage.com/en/


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thanks a million for all the info


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we have a week to get to le mans and staying there for the weekend then a week to get back to rosscoff. we were going to try spend a night or 2 in a camp site with maybe a pool on the way to and from le mans


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I love wifi when in France (or anywhere !) that is a great list for travelling to France.we have been 4 times in last Motorhome but we bought newer one few weeks ago,,this one right hand drive, with only one door on right side, so wondering how that will be. We love ACSI too but going to try more Aires this year.

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We check out the weather using yr.no so if weather not great we head for best area,last year we got as far as south of La Rochelle and then went inland to Dordogne weather fantastic after Easter, then we had 36 hours non stop rain and went home few days early (4 weeks away).

We went to Guerdelon last year, near Paris, saw it on BBC where they are building castle using old traditional methods. There is an Aire about 5km from it. Go early as lots of MHs at Guerdelon by lunchtime


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May be this is a silly question to mist but as a newbie I don't know. What way do laundry facilities work in french campsites or what do most people use


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What way do laundry facilities work in french campsites or what do most people use


Pretty much the same as here, you pay for a token or what ever and work away :up:


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If you are mainly on Aires you will find launderettes in many towns especially near marinas.


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And laundry facilities outside many supermarkets........ especially the Super U chain of shops.
We use sites for an overnight and do laundry.
Dries super quick in good weather....... take a clothes line & some pegs with you !


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Thanks a million for help


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Jonkil said >>> Have breakdown kit in van as well as hi-viz vests for everyone. <<<

The breakdown triangle and high viz vests compulsory in MH in France, think also spare light bulbs but you should have them anyway in case needed here in Ireland

We also put together tool bag ...essentials... fuses, couple of spanners and screwdrivers, Stanley knife, cable ties, deflectors for headlights,
Duct tape (needed that last time when we punctured outer skin of upper edge of MH with tree).
We probabably have a lot more in the bag.

In last MH I needed a small folding step to reach vents and things high in cupboard as our roof was quite high, rarely have vents open in Ireland.

We also put a card in front of dials on dashboard to remind us to close vents and turn off gas before driving off.

Our latest MH bought this year the speedometer is in miles not kms, the Sat Nav is in kms so even to have it switched on as it gives your speed and changes as soon as you drive past speed limit signs and of course need it here too.


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Thanks also a question about the journey on the ferry is it compulsory to hook up to the electric or is the fridge left on the gas thanks


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Thanks also a question about the journey on the ferry is it compulsory to hook up to the electric or is the fridge left on the gas thanks


It is in breach of your terms and conditions to use gas on a ferry.
Search this forum for many past discussions on the subject.

All has must be turned off before boarding.

Electric hook up is not compulsory, in fact you may not get it at all on busy sailings. It is a perk which you may or may not get if you ask.


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in fact you may not get it at all on busy sailings.


Not available on the Stena Horizon the two times we sailed as i had asked and i was told they only plug in the refrigerated trailers


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Re: France 2016 planning stage !

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Posted: 03.04.2016  ·  #39
Re: Fridge on Gas/hook up
All our sailings we did not have hook up, gas is not permitted on sailings.
Take food that does not require chilling for first day, do a shop on arrival in France in the many,many supermarkets there.
We tend to just buy enough for max of a couple days but have dry food if required, buying fresh in France is a real perk !
Bread in France must be fresh...... it is just lovely !
Don't panic re food shopping, you will get what you need except bloody tea-bags!! .. Take tea-bags !
Enjoy.


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Re: France 2016 planning stage !

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Posted: 03.04.2016  ·  #40
EHU is often available on Irish Ferries to France. I have not been refused yet, although not too many people either know about it or want it. I think if every one asked it could be a problem.

Since we only take teabags in quantity and enough food for the first day or so, I don't think I will ask for it this year. If you feel you would like EHU put your hazard lights on as you board. You will need to supply your own cables and find the nearest 230 volt outlet.

If you have a well cooled fridge and well packed with pre frozen or chilled items your fridge will not suffer for the 18 hours or so. Some would say fill your fridges spare space with pre frozen bottles of water for the trip. They can be discarded or used while away. Indeed some will only drink bottled water at home or abroad, but that's a whole other story.

For the record we drink it from the tank home and away.

Davy


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