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· Posted: 28.04.2020 · #41

Ohms reading across the switch terminals to determine if the switch is operating.
You’re getting +5v across the spades as you’re taking a reading thru the circuit.
Try pinning it out to a 0v ground and you ‘may’ get +12v ... depending if the circuit is designed for 12v switching.
If the system works on motors that change direction then each motor will be wired thru a pair of 3 pin relays (probably smt) to obtain reverse polarity.

Pin out both the micro switches using the ohms settings (wires removed from micro switches, and probes on switch spades........ they should open close)

Disconnecting the motors and powering them up will determine if they’re OK...... those Bosch motors have carbon brushes on little spring loaded brass bases that rot away..... they are motors that are used on electric windows alright.... you can repair them.

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· Posted: 28.04.2020 · #42

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I have disconnected the wires going into switch , put the meter across them ,5v , reconnect to switch , reading across the terminals 0v don't know where the 5v went to
Why an ohms reading I thought that was just a resistance reading

What Jjf said. Only he said it better

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· Posted: 28.04.2020 · #43

Thanks guys , weather changing so I won't be able to have a look immediately , learning something new every day

never used the ohms setting before , interesting

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #44

First thing I would do is get a load of wd40 sprayed over all that you seem to have a load of rust plus, rust will be in the connectors which won’t help with any connections, get it all cleaned up with wd 40 and a brush to me it looks like the limit switch’s I have some of them switches I think, I’ll have a look for them if you need them I’ll post them to you

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #45

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The rust you see is harmless, all the connections are clean and there's grease on the cog's so I don't think wd 40 would do any good, thanks for the offer of the switches though , have been wondering where I'd get one if needed

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #46

(seen you don't need it, but a tip for anyone else)

WD40 would strip the grease. WD40 is great at what it is meant to do but it then seizes stuff up. If you use it, always grease or oil after freeing.

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #47

do have them if you need them pm me

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #48

looking at the pictures would the shaft with brass cog on the end and the pin over the switch possibly have gotten out of sync and is activating the stop switch before it should?

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #49

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looking at the pictures would the shaft with brass cog on the end and the pin over the switch possibly have gotten out of sync and is activating the stop switch before it should?

No all is in sync , it's as soon as it lift's off the switch that it stops

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Re: Sat Motor

· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #50

Is there another limit switch on that arm. It appears as if that one should stop the motor when it’s fully down. What stops it when it’s fully up. That’s what I’d be looking for. Doesn’t sound like it’s the motor.
You say it stops as soon as it lifts off that limit switch. If you hold that switch down, will it keep operating

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #51

A video Dave

A video paints a thousand words

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #52

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A video Dave

A video paints a thousand words

It would be less than 2 seconds long

Didn't get near it today, hopefully tomorrow

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #53

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My thinking as well, I would expect to see 3 switch altogether, you would surely have to have a second switch to stop the travel when that pin rotates around away from the switch shown.
The second one in the photo seems to be on a cam bases.
You should follow all the wiring and make sure there isnt a short or loose connection, when the movement starts , robbing the power and giving the impression that the micro has activated.
I do mean all the wiring you never know what will pull the power down without blowing a fuse.

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #54

My thinking is its possible that the up is controlled by the controller (azimuth setting) so possibly only 1 limit switch for when its in the travel mode,

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· Posted: 29.04.2020 · #55

Only 2 switches 1 for the up and 1 for the circle although I don't know what makes it stop when it's up, probably run by the controller in the van as it has to keep changing tilt when searching

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· Posted: 02.05.2020 · #56

Had another look today,ran meter on ohms ,got a 1 with switch down, and lots of numbers which settled on 0.00 when up ,ran independent 12v to motor in situ on van , it seemed to run ok but I had to stop it as I was afraid the second motor would start up ,then forgot to reconnect the stop switch and the switch pin snapped , it's back now where it should be and everything is put back together, think I'll take it to Donaghys when we're up for the Donegal meet

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· Posted: 02.05.2020 · #57

The 1 is over limit. An open circuit (no connection) the 0.00 indicates a short circuit ( good connection). Therefore I would conclude the limit switch seems ok.

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· Posted: 02.05.2020 · #58

Quote by Daffysparks

The 1 is over limit. An open circuit (no connection) the 0.00 indicates a short circuit ( good connection). Therefore I would conclude the limit switch seems ok.

Thanks David, that's what I thought but didn't know for sure , never used the ohms setting before

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· Posted: 02.05.2020 · #59

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My thinking is its possible that the up is controlled by the controller (azimuth setting) so possibly only 1 limit switch for when its in the travel mode,

Quote by eirebus

Only 2 switches 1 for the up and 1 for the circle although I don't know what makes it stop when it's up, probably run by the controller in the van as it has to keep changing tilt when searching

Dave.
Mad Max Is right The Limit switch is to tell the controller that the dish is down and stop.
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My guess is that it is some kind of Controller problem, because the controller has to fine tune the angle up/down a small bit to lock on.
Then it tells the the controller to rotate and search for 28.2 to find the satellite.
So to me it seems that the controller is stopping the dish from going to the correct height. Maybe there was a glitch in last Software update that you did, forum/topic.php?t=20758 might be worth updating again. or possibly a faulty controller. Also might be worth checking some of the Settings on the controller.

If that makes a bit of sense.

Some info here on alignment / Angles and height. Direction of 28.2°E
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Position on screen shot taken from ( Kildare Town )
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· Posted: 02.05.2020 · #60

Thanks Tom , I'm thinking it's a controller problem too , might try to reinstall the software again although it was working fine the day before

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· Posted: 02.05.2020 · #61

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Thanks Tom , I'm thinking it's a controller problem too , might try to reinstall the software again although it was working fine the day before

Yeah so was my laptop, till I plugged in a usb drive. nothing happened done a total restart whoo all working again.. Gadgets have a habit of going wrong well with me anyway.

P.s. On a side note, if you look at the elevation 23.3 on the screen shot this is the angle the dish should be at when fully up. If you were able to measure this you would know that the dish would be the right height.

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· Posted: 17.04.2024 · #62

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Long shot but check something is not loose. I had an issue with our teleco which wouldn't lift the dish. Turned out the nuts on the shaft driven by the motor were spinning. Motor was fine but no dish movement.....

I've got this problem, motor running, but Teleco Flatsat Easy dish not lifting due to nuts on drive shaft not being tight enough. Is there a specific nm the nuts need tightening to, or is it just a matter of tightening them as much as you can?

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· Posted: 17.04.2024 · #63

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you could try giving them a call or Email.

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· Posted: 18.04.2024 · #64

I tried contacting them but they just want me to go to a dealer. They think I need a new motor, even though I told them the motor is running. So they haven't been very helpful.

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· Posted: 18.04.2024 · #65

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I tried contacting them but they just want me to go to a dealer. They think I need a new motor, even though I told them the motor is running. So they haven't been very helpful.

That's great customer service .

An 8mm bolt torque is between 19 and 25 N/M so you could so you could start at the lower end, but I would suggest loosen them first and make sure it's in the fully down or up position before before you tighten them up.

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· Posted: 18.04.2024 · #66

Cara motorhomes are the Teleco rep's in Ireland so they may be able to help

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