Dungarvan Parking

Great result Colin, well done to everyone involved.

We need a similar result in Galway

Stopped off in Dungarvan on Friday on the way to Kinsale. Popped down to the parking area that we usually frequent by the harbour. About 25 vans there and not a lot of space left there. Very popular spot

Great outcome hopefully more of the same around the country.
submissions done E-mail sent.

A good news story

Excellent, hope they did their homework on what we need

With this plan, do they intend to ban motorhome parking in the popular area closer to town by St Marys Church?

Having made a submission I received this yesterday, My reply is attached at the end.

Aideen Jacob

AttachmentsWed, 20 Nov, 12:19 (23 hours ago)
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Dear Sir/Madam,

I refer to your submission in relation to the above Part 8 process. The completion of the Part 8 was dealt with at the Dungarvan/Lismore District meeting held on 11th November 2019. The Council agreed to proceed on the basis of the recommendation contained in the Chief Executive's Report which was to reduce the number of camper van spaces from 11 to 8. A copy of the report is attached for your information. I would like to thank you for your participation in this process.

Kind regards,

Aideen Jacob

Administrative Officer

Roads Department
0761102773|Mob: 0863731268|email:ajacob@waterfordcouncil.ie

Thank you for keeping us informed, I must admit I would question the decision to extend the separation distance from 1.8m to 3m ( 3m which is the standard for static caravan parks ). This, unfortunately, appears to show a lack of understanding of what actually happens on the ground by Mr. Niall Curtin, Chief Fire Officer, Waterford City, and County Council.  This distance will allow parking between the existing parked motorhomes by cars, vans, and even the biggest motorhomes, which will defeat the purpose of the separation in the first place.evidance of this can be seen on every caravan park throughout the country and elsewhere in Europe, a look at the tyre tracks beside mobile homes and caravan pitches will clearly show that the 3m distance will be disregarded. and there will be no one to police it at midnight on a Friday or Saturday
Notwithstanding the loss of the 3 spaces, I would urge you to re-examine this distance for the reasons explained above  
Best regards
M. D
Campervan owner.

Unfortunately, Colin, this is the answer I received and then my reply.

Dear Martin,

Thank you for your email and I note the points made by you. However, the recommendations of the Chief Fire Officer is based on European, New Zealand and Australian guidance for caravans/campervans and his advice in respect of the minimum separation distance for risk of fire must be 3m. As you will understand the Council must have regard for any such advice where there is a potential risk of fire and to public safety. Only time will tell how the separation distance will work out once the facility is completed and in operation and the Council will monitor compliance and address any issues that may arise at that stage.

to Aideen

My answer to that is they said the Bowing 737 Max was the safest thing also and the reality is something different, recommendations are nor realities and I hope they install some kind of restriction to stop the infill because I certainly hope he or his men never have to deal with the consequences,
Regards
Martin.

The problem is he has no concept of what some will do.
He has obviously never traveled in Europe, in France last year I parked in a line in an Aire leaving a good space and went for a walk, on returning the French idiot beside me moved his van so his buddy could fit into the front row with a sea view and then they both put up their screens and watched telly all evening, he was so close I hit his wing mirror with my drivers door. in Spain, I have seen 32 vans in a row with not enough space between then to push a bike trough.

That's the problem, isn't it?
The F.O. got his guidance for caravans/campervans New Zealand Here (see 6 (2)) Australia Here Page 53 paragraph 8 which indicates he is applying caravan and camping park requirements. He certainly didn't get guidance from fellow European authorities who provide off-street parking areas for motorhomes (Aires).

It's interesting that the recommended width of a truck parking bay in the T.I.I. publication The Location And Layout Of Service Areas is 3.5m and this is for overnight parking of vehicles carrying hazardous materials in which the driver could be 'living & sleeping', during his/her regulation rest periods.
So it's okay a driver to 'live & sleep' in a truck with over 40,000l litres of petrol just1.0m from its neighbours while we must leave a separation of 3.0m

That's brilliant Colin
If we could only get other councils infected with the same as Waterford and Cork.

Great news...as it's a great stopover....well done to those involved...

That's a great angle to pursue, where there is a will, they will find a way. unfortunately having the will seems to be the problem.

No reports on the MPI app to suggest that.

I know someone who lives local, I'll see if they know.

I am in the Dungarvan Aire this evening nothing but motorhomes here all bays full and a few motorhomes in the bus bays.

It is the parking area near the sports centre I was told had been occupied by caravans
Great news